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Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#41

It’s been a year ago today I got laid off. I have had a handful in interviews in the past year. The year before I had 5 interviews a week. I’m in Silicon Valley and a software engineer.

That's kind of crazy to me.. what kinda of skillset/experience do you have? I'm still getting regular recruiter spam here in The Netherlands.

Even though June/July/August are dead months.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#42
I can anecdotally attest that the market, at least in agency spaces, has definitely shifted to offshoring/outsourcing mode. I think it’s a reaction to our swelling salaries during the pandemic during the hiring craze, and like always, although they think it’s different this time, I think it’ll swing back once they realize (again) that there is more to our jobs than just pounding out lines of code, outsourced business interests don’t always align with their own, and dealing with the extra communication lag is a headache.

As for the sluggishness, I listened to an interesting podcast called Marketplace[0] last night that said, at least according to the latest jobs numbers, we’re now in what you’d call a “normal” pre-pandemic market. The thing is, the market has been crazy the last few years, and that makes the current state of things feel worse than it really is for some. I can’t decide if I agree or not. I’m seeing postings at my LOE, at least.

However, I think all of this is also heavily dependent on YOE and skill level. AI is a compounding factor that, in combination with the outsourcing, means that people with less work experience are probably having a harder time catching a break.

[0] https://www.marketplace.org/shows/marketplace/wheres-the-ai-...

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#43
I've found that a lot of the tools that I've used to find jobs in the past appear to have fallen apart.

LinkedIn and Indeed's job boards are filled with much more spam and seem to have much less reliable search tools.

LinkedIn has restricted the ability to browse who works for a company so I'm having trouble finding recruiters to contact directly.

AngelList no longer appears to be a way for job seekers to connect with startups. I have no idea what's going on with this one.

Is anyone else noticing this? Has anyone found better alternatives?

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#44
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I am an SWE in the US. In 2022 on Linkedin I got messages from recruiters at Google, Amazon, Uber, and many other companies, large and small. I haven't gotten a message from any recruiter on Linkedin for over a year. Luckily I am working. One data point, but it fits with what I've been seeing and hearing from others.

Same experience when it comes to LinkedIn, tons of InMail in 2022 and before, barely any in 2023 and afterwards.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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US East Coast === Also Dead. edit: I'm a frontend focused JS/TS dev with 5 years experience and I was laid off at the end of May and never before has my anxiety been this high about landing another SWE role. At this point I've been heavily considering some sort of "hold over job" just to keep the lights on and keep me from going crazy, but I'm hoping I don't have to go down that route.

What industries/verticals are you looking in?

If I had my druthers on specific industries to focus on it would likely be in either finance or some sort of logistics field. My last role was an education CMS product and while that was fine it never felt like things would go anywhere I wanted to go. But, with the aforementioned "deadness" of things, I'm willing to take a role almost anywhere at any level just to stay writing software.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#46

If I get laid off, I'm going to see about a career change. These threads invoke too much anxiety for me.

I’m going through this right now, I used to be a carpenter and a farmer.

About 15 years ago, I went into tech to pay for kids in the city.

To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously.

I’m considering moving back to trades work instead of finding another infra job.

I’ve had time to get my stuff sorted and looking at journey man level salaries I’m not making too much more in tech any more.

I’m not really sure I want to keep going in tech at this point.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#47

My advice is build your network. If you haven't already start now. It's how I landed my job.

Any advice on how to build your network if you are trying to switch industries? (E.g. I am trying to get out of web development into something less vulnerable to offshoring)

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#48
I am in Toronto, Canada. I don't have the open to work flag on in LinkedIn. Two years an ago, even with the flag off, would get recruiters reaching out daily (> 20 years experience). Now it's 1 per week. I do get lots of job openings alerts in the area though. Not looking, hoping current company does not blow up (betting heavy on LLMs. Fun demos, no real products yet. Concerned it's an expensive fad) this year. But, feels like something bad is brewing (might just be crazy state of the world).

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#49
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I have competing offers from multiple companies right now. Everything will be highly dependent on what industry you’re looking at and your skill set and experience.

Do you happen to have past experience from a FAANG and/or Brand Name Big Tech?

I noticed people who were getting offers + interviews had work exp in big tech.

Also, could you elaborate on your back grounds + years of exp? Would be helpful info.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

#50
I was searching for a job from April to June 2024 as a senior/lead front-end (React) dev in EU (Germany). In addition to the usual mid-year slow down, the market itself was tougher. It seemed like a lot of companies had weird standards, contradictory at times even; even though the salaries they offered were much lower than before.

Luckily I landed a great job in late June, but it took 60+ applications and countless interviews.

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