I want to second two other responses: first, the one about outsourcing to India. This was a very real threat, and practically no one wanted to get a CS degree for a while. But we learned that the hard part about writing software is not hacking out code, it's communicating with the people that are driving requirements. Being in the same culture and time zone turned out to be more important than being cheap. This part…
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#42All of us have been implementing things through manual logic so far. For example, If I need to find patterns in some given data, I'd write some regex, extend it over time to cover more possible inputs and it would just work with the frequent updates to code. Think it in AI way. I'd build a model, train it with sample inputs and outputs and over time it'd be able to learn the patterns by itself without having the modify or extend the code. Sounds fascinating to me. People want things like these, that don't require a dedicated dev to maintain themselves, that run on itself, just like a business that runs on autopilot.
Try to stay strong and think how can you make something easier for someone else and build it. You don't necessarily have to work for someone else to be able to make a living. And even if you have to, don't think AI is not for you. Apply it (theoretically) on what you're doing, maybe you can find some ways to do something lot easier than what that is. Hope it helps.
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#43You can't get a steam engine to dig a hole though. It was used to pump water. Then carry things. Then locomotion. They were limited to rails. They did take jobs. Then other kinds of engines appeared. They did things steam engines didn't do so well.
But turning an engine to a bulldozer isn't easy and that created a lot of new jobs. Right now LLMs are doing the equivalent of pumping water. Heavy, boring, tedious things that humans don't really want to do. I hated doing data entry and cleaning and LLMs are great at that.
One thing many creatives won't admit is that a lot of their work is generic and repetitive, simply requiring lots of attention to get good output. Screenwriters were one of the first people I've observed utilizing LLMs, because they understood this. Someone hacked Copilot to start writing scripts. There's probably a lot of things it can do, perhaps in animation and logo design and stuff. And there's a lot it can't do. But they're shocked because it's doing the "soulful" stuff that people thought made them human, when it's actually just the advantage of having a huge training database of tropes.
Will art go obsolete? The first knowledge worker to lose his job to AI was Kasparov, and yet human chess is still more popular than ever.
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#44LLMs are basically attention machines. Just like the steam engine did physical work, LLMs do mental work. You can't get a steam engine to dig a hole though. It was used to pump water. Then carry things. Then locomotion. They were limited to rails. They did take jobs. Then other kinds of engines appeared. They did things steam engines didn't do so well. But turning an engine to a bulldozer isn't easy and that created…
Steam shovels came out in the early 1800s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_shovel
> They were limited to rails
Um, no: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_tractor and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_steam_road_vehicles
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#45At my workplace they recently enabled Microsoft's Copilot which is basically OpenAI + RAG. It's a joke. It is painful to watch how slow it types. About 30% of the time it doesn't work at all. I asked it how big a particle accelerator would have to be to have 1 PeV protons and it got the right equation for the radius of the ring but it told me the ring would be like 10^34 meters in radius which is about 10^24 times to…
> to get some idea of how LLMs could appear to be 95% of the way there but still be structurally wrong to solve real-life problems that involve logic, arithmetic and everything else. I'm not sure if your Godel Escher Bach reference is real, but Douglass Hofstadter himself has recanted some of his views in light of LLMs. The things you're complaining about are implementation details. > People who know better act insul…
Re: Ask HN: How to deal with the AI-pocalypse as a regular guy?
#46At my workplace they recently enabled Microsoft's Copilot which is basically OpenAI + RAG. It's a joke. It is painful to watch how slow it types. About 30% of the time it doesn't work at all. I asked it how big a particle accelerator would have to be to have 1 PeV protons and it got the right equation for the radius of the ring but it told me the ring would be like 10^34 meters in radius which is about 10^24 times to…
But why are you asking copilot physics questions?
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#47I work in an industry already being shaped by LLMs. Today, it's eating away at the bottom of the market, but I assume it will eventually eat away at the top where I am positioned too. I was talking to a friend about the book "psychology of money" and the part he shared was related to paying down your mortgage, even if it makes more financial sense to keep your money invested in the market with a higher expected retur…
I hope this works out for you, but for anyone else reading I would strongly discourage doing something like this. Stock picking and predicting the future more generally is extremely hard to get right. Nvidia is setup well for the near to medium future but things don't always happen as expected, especially in a fast moving domain. And the thing is, that upside is already priced into the stock. Even if Nvidia does well going forward it might end up just meeting expectations and not significantly growing the stock price.
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#48I want to second two other responses: first, the one about outsourcing to India. This was a very real threat, and practically no one wanted to get a CS degree for a while. But we learned that the hard part about writing software is not hacking out code, it's communicating with the people that are driving requirements. Being in the same culture and time zone turned out to be more important than being cheap. This part…
>Finally, breathe a little. We have some time, probably. The world won't change overnight. Tell that to all the artists, desginers, editors, copywriters, voice actors, customer support folks, and on and on... There are many, many people facing real existential threats, with no clear path to what to reskill towards.
Photoshop "ai", design templates, and outsourcing destroyed most of them a long time ago.
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#49As we layer on the abstractions I feel further and further removed from the land that sustains us. It's an existential threat. I don't knowingly choose to use any products of LLM/ML, and I've scaled back my computer use to: reading some blogs (low tech magazine & no tech magazine, plus sites linked from there); access to library ebooks; medical access for family; credit-unioning; watching a streamed show with my spouse for date night or something on PBS with the family (otherwise I don't bother with streaming, and I can imagine a time again when I don't even read, but a lot has to heal/reassemble for that to be tenable); and keeping up distance friendships via videogames (BG3 and Solium Infernum are all I play these days, and then almost never solo, after decades of "self-medicating" after a rough childhood).
I read mostly nonfiction now, towards being a knowledgeable member of the rural community I'm in, inspired in part by Jessica Carew Kraft's book Why We Need to be Wild. We're in this together, and the best place to start is with those within walking distance.
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#50I'm in my 40s, main job is parenting & homemaking, previously taught high school physics, math, and other science, also did some engineering/materials science, and I also do part-time work for a local public utility. I like it being feasible to walk to work again. As we layer on the abstractions I feel further and further removed from the land that sustains us. It's an existential threat. I don't knowingly choose to…
“Abstractions” is a lovely euphemism for “people.” You’re distanced from the land that sustains you because at the bottom of the ladder are people doing the work.