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Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by wslh »

worksonmine wrote: post #31
wslh wrote: post #22

I use ChatGPT everyday and I am sure it is a great, novel, and revolutionary tool. I said I am sure because I can measure how ChatGPT inproves my daily work. I don't use it for software development because I am in a management role now. The first insight is that an article that I need to publish could be proofread immediately while before I used an incredible professional content editor that could take hours for revi…

Are you using ChatGPT to proofread your articles? And you trust it despite the hallucinations? Isn't that very backwards? You should proofread and triple check the output, unless the articles you're writing are fiction and you use it for spell-checking, but then just use the spell-checking in your editor.

I mentioned in my comment that I merge the content. Since I know my field I know what is wrong and what is right. That is why I said: "garbage-in / garbage-out" if you expect that ChatGPT will solve your "homework" it will not work but if you know your field you are in an excellent position.

BTW, there are a lot of issues in Wikipedia pages as well. There is a general issue with being critical in general, ChatGPT is no different.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by yodsanklai »

EE84M3i wrote: post #20
yodsanklai wrote: post #8

> is there any stigma with using ChatGPT in the workplace? I work in a big tech company. ChatGPT (and equivalent systems) is becoming pervasive in developers tooling. There's no stigma, it's used is actually encouraged. I don't think it's a life changer or that it'll save engineers the time to learn their craft.

>There's no stigma, it's use is actually encouraged. At companies I've worked at, it's actively encouraged _if you follow the rules_. Specifically, you shouldn't be using SaaS LLMs like ChatGPT, Copilot, etc with your personal account for business purposes. That's likely a violation of your NDA. However, it's absolutely encouraged to use the tools that the business blessed. That's what they're there for. Local LLMs s…

> Specifically, you shouldn't be using SaaS LLMs like ChatGPT, Copilot, etc with your personal account for business purposes

My company has an agreement with OpenAI. I use it from our internal tools.

We also have top-level engineers giving speechs on how they use it and so on.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by imdsm »

DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #34

I work in biotech and at my company, specifically our CEO, for over a decade has constantly asked all of us, "How are you leveraging AI in your job?". So much so that we used to joke about it. Well, when ChatGPT arrived, something happened. Everyone at the company (now about 5000 people) were already primed, looking for how they could finally answer "Yes" to our obsessive CEO. We have a deep roster of professional so…

This is absolutely it. As a professional, GPT-4 is a force multiplier. It allows me to do much more than I could without it. I don't work in any restricted orgs so I fully embrace -- become reliant -- upon it.

It is the same as typing rather than handwriting. I can still write with a pen, but it'd take me a lot longer to write a letter than typing one.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by gmerc »

gear54rus wrote: post #11
gmerc wrote: post #6

It’s a tech demo, data acquisition and research/prototyping operation for OpenAI that’s highly subsidized and aimed at building a qualify dataset for GPT 5+ - effectively using their initial models trained in an unsustainable fashion and only offering temporary moats into investor narrative and a combination of new data and users, both potentially new moats and closing the gap to google. It’s not a serious product.

What makes google's tech demo different?

Google just produces fake videos and announcements and then doesn’t release the product ?

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

imdsm wrote: post #43
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #34

I work in biotech and at my company, specifically our CEO, for over a decade has constantly asked all of us, "How are you leveraging AI in your job?". So much so that we used to joke about it. Well, when ChatGPT arrived, something happened. Everyone at the company (now about 5000 people) were already primed, looking for how they could finally answer "Yes" to our obsessive CEO. We have a deep roster of professional so…

This is absolutely it. As a professional, GPT-4 is a force multiplier. It allows me to do much more than I could without it. I don't work in any restricted orgs so I fully embrace -- become reliant -- upon it. It is the same as typing rather than handwriting. I can still write with a pen, but it'd take me a lot longer to write a letter than typing one.

Good analogy. It’s a tool. Sure, you could wash your clothes by hand, but a washing machine frees your time to do things that technology can’t scale (yet!).

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by muzani »

Jensson wrote: post #37
muzani wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever someone says this, I always wonder whether we're talking about the same tool. GPT-3.5 scores at the bottom 10% in a lot of tasks where GPT-4 scores in the top 10%.

Not the same task. Gpt-4 scored top 10% at simple tasks gpt 3 was already good at, and a little less worthless on some tasks that gpt-3 were really bad, it didn't completely revolutionize at any kind of task.

https://openai.com/research/gpt-4

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by senectus1 »

nathell wrote: post #44

It’s a very fancy autocomplete, and I treat it as such. It can be a very useful tool, but I tend to take a conservative stance and stay clear of the hype.

yeah, fancy autocomplete is a good description.

especially as it often gets things horribly wrong.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by worksonmine »

wslh wrote: post #41
worksonmine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using ChatGPT to proofread your articles? And you trust it despite the hallucinations? Isn't that very backwards? You should proofread and triple check the output, unless the articles you're writing are fiction and you use it for spell-checking, but then just use the spell-checking in your editor.

I mentioned in my comment that I merge the content. Since I know my field I know what is wrong and what is right. That is why I said: "garbage-in / garbage-out" if you expect that ChatGPT will solve your "homework" it will not work but if you know your field you are in an excellent position. BTW, there are a lot of issues in Wikipedia pages as well. There is a general issue with being critical in general, ChatGPT is…

But you claim ChatGPT replaces your human proofreader, which is what I'm curious about. Now you claim that you can proofread yourself since you know your field, so how exactly is ChatGPT replacing your human proofreader and why did you need one at all?

This statement here is what I'm asking about:

> The first insight is that an article that I need to publish could be proofread immediately while before I used an incredible professional content editor that could take hours for reviewing and improving the article.

Don't you have to double check the output anyway and how is that proofreading?

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on ChatGPT as a professional?

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Post by satisfice »

Yes, there is a stigma.

No one who has pride in his work relies on LLMs to do any lifting.

Perhaps someday LLMs will not be so unreliable. But at the moment they cannot be trusted to do anything important. Or let me put it this way, if you trust them, that trust cannot possibly be justified based on actual careful testing— because you don’t have the time for that testing, you don’t know how to do that testing, whatever testing you did do cannot be generalized to your next project, whatever testing you did do is obsolete, and finally, because if you did the testing you’d see that ChatGPT is unreliable. My opinion comes from fairly extensive, unpaid testing of ChatGPT (plus some dabbling with its competitors).

Treat an LLM as if it were a child, not like it’s a co-worker.

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