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Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

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We’re busy keeping the well pumps running, ordering propane when the generator kicks in after power lines fail, cleaning up tree limbs (and trees) that fell in the winter storms. Other than that, it’s a dilemma. I have a spectacular view, living on a ridge, but except for the gas station/quicky mart, everything “a.k.a. Downtown” is 12 miles away and all the stores not named hardware stores are 50 miles away. So are c…

Where is this? Just ballpark it.

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

#43
Living in a small village in a rural part of South Africa 2 hours from Cape Town. Off grid solar & water, keep chickens. Coder / remote sysadmin mostly for EU based companies. Same timezone as CET, so it works well. No cars needed, everything is in walking/biking distance & reasonably cost of living. Online shopping is big here, so if you are prepared to wait a couple days everything is available (no Amazon but it's coming soon I hear)

Check out https://greytontourism.com - our villages answer to Airbnb, made by yours truly

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

#46

I live rurally in Canterbury, New Zealand, but I'm only 25 minutes away from Christchurch CBD. I've lived far more rurally in the past, long commutes down metal roads with the occasional ford, septic tanks, private water schemes supplying algae-green water from rivers that rise in the front ranges, Internet via microwave or satellite or... ...dial-up giving 2KiB/s if you're lucky, electric fences often lowered the bi…

> metal road

TIL metal road is actually gravel road in NZ.

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

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I’ve been primarily a city dweller for most of my life but have had a few stints in very rural, mountainous areas and I cannot get enough of it. Think gold country in Northern California between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe.

There are a few advantages to settling here:

- Quiet: As long as you’re off the main road by a mile or so.

- Cheap: Land sales are usually FSBO and you have to be in the know. Locals generally don’t like selling their land to where it ends up on Zillow.

- Utilities: Most land is federal or state owned but the few private lots often have power and telecom on one end of the property.

- Building permits: Easy to get in unincorporated county assuming you’re outside of TRPA. As long as you are not cutting down trees, you’re good (usually)

- Allergies: I find it easier to breath even very thin air (elevation is about 5000 feet)

But there are also some drawbacks, too:

First off, Snow. The mountains get loads of this goddamn frosty Satan jizz. People cannot drive with it being either too cautious or too aggressive - both are very dangerous, sometimes it blocks private roads so you’re trapped until a neighbor with the snow blower is kind enough to come clear the road (there is a startup idea here I’m sure). For the driving part, there are few feelings worse than stepping on your brakes and realizing they have frozen over despite needing them to be functional in about 3 seconds. Snow also also breaks random stuff, allows water enter orifice, turns into black ice, makes going grocery shopping dangerous, and in general is a scourge if you have to go outside for any reason.

On a similar topic, convenience. In the city, I can generally find 24/7 stores. We have a handful of Safeways, WinCo, and 7-Elevens. In the mountains, things shut down for any weather, it’s 20 miles away, and the gas station may be closed. So you have to stock up, on everything. I have 10 gallons of gasoline in two 5gal containers (that I cycle through regularly), propane (so many tanks, all either full, partially used, or empty), canned food, frozen food, indoor dried, de-pested firewood, drinkable water, sat phone, spare adjustable tire chains, the list goes on.

Lastly, the weird shit that just happens. All the odd things you see in the deep woods, on your property cameras, random people that have no business being there (lost tourists, tweakers, illusions, etc). I saw (on my cameras) a guy in full business attire walk up to my remote cabin, look around then look directly at the camera, and casually walk the away. I’ve seen on a hike a newish Kia Optima stopped in the forest, driver side door open, keys in ignition, chime still ringing. From my porch, I’ve seen a girl in a white night gown walking along the ridge across the road at night. I’ve also seen strange shit like a mini cement obelisk, shrines to deerman, a wooden staircase to nowhere, half buried vehicle from the 1950s. I’ve also seen several bears, a mountain lion (well, two but one was someone’s pet and was dangerously sweet), deer like crazy (but no deerman yet). Also, it gets very dark. Darker than you can imagine sometimes.

Despite all of this, making your own power and being off grid is cool.

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

#48
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Grew up in a rural area but have lived in many places now including cities and suburbs. Totally agree with your point though: a large segment of the car hatred movement types strike me as lacking significant perspective.

I would probably qualify as being in the car hatred movement but I don’t lump in rural areas. I do believe that cities should be largely car free. Cars belong in rural areas but when coming into a city should park outside and take rapid / convenient public transport into the city. This transition is already happening in many international cities. That said, even rural areas shouldn’t require cars nearly as much as th…

I live in SE Europe, 800k city, part of EU. This notion that public transport is well developed over here applies only to more developed parts of the continent. I am in Croatia and trains are... a joke to say the least. In a 800k city we don't have any notion of rapid urban transit. For us a tram is best you can get. Recently I took public transport for fun, took me 1h to get 9km and that's in 8pm, when there is no peak traffic.

I have to drive a car everywhere.

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

#49
post #15

Grew up in a rural area but have lived in many places now including cities and suburbs. Totally agree with your point though: a large segment of the car hatred movement types strike me as lacking significant perspective.

I would probably qualify as being in the car hatred movement but I don’t lump in rural areas. I do believe that cities should be largely car free. Cars belong in rural areas but when coming into a city should park outside and take rapid / convenient public transport into the city. This transition is already happening in many international cities. That said, even rural areas shouldn’t require cars nearly as much as th…

The problem with rural areas and cars is not usually getting from unincorporated settlement to the big city, it’s getting from your home in an unincorporated settlement to the Main Street of the closest city with a Walmart. Especially as you look eastward into the US, there is a spider web of tiny junction cites, settlements, town, etc, all would be difficult to serve with mass transit effectively.

Re: Ask HN: How many people on Hacker News live in rural areas?

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I live in a village on Dartmoor, UK, complete with a pub dating back to the 12th century. But the village shop has disappeared, the internet and even the water connection seem increasingly fragile. On the other hand, working from home in my own office with a view across the valley, and working on our woodland are great for body and soul. Also, there are enough children around that our kids don’t feel isolated - at the same time we’ve never worried about traffic when they go off on their explorations.
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