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Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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My kids are not in school yet. But, A friend of mine has a daughter that is very smart and does well academically. She would go ahead of the class in math on her own and the teacher took her aside and told her to 'limit herself' to only a certain amount of math/week, so she doesn't get that far ahead.

This is the saddest thing I have read in a while.

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

#42

My kids are not in school yet. But, A friend of mine has a daughter that is very smart and does well academically. She would go ahead of the class in math on her own and the teacher took her aside and told her to 'limit herself' to only a certain amount of math/week, so she doesn't get that far ahead.

This is the saddest thing I have read in a while.

My third grade teacher made me sign a written contract that I would only answer one out of every 5 questions.

I "wasn't giving other kids a chance to learn".

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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Yup. My kids are ahead of their peers academically and socially, and it's been a lot of fun. My advice to start would be to start by compiling as many resources as possible. Look at different schools and school systems and look for their grade-level objectives. Learn about high-achieving students and take a look at the resources they use. Brainstorm about what school can be, and what you can do with the tremendous fl…

>My kids are ahead of their peers academically and socially, >socially How are they ahead socially? Are they so cool that the other kids don't talk or play with them? What does ahead mean here?

> Are they so cool that the other kids don't talk or play with them?

Look, I'm sorry your mom told you that but that's really not how it works!

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume the downvotes are because that phrasing is dog whistling for “I am homo/transphobic”. Consider other variations along the same lines: “gender equality ideology” or “race equality ideology”. The inference is “I am opposed to this thing existing”. Generally people who bring up this topic, or bring it up in this way have no problem with the topics at hand if they don’t disagree with their world view. For exampl…

What’s wrong with opposing any ideology? For example i am 100% for gender equality etc, but at the same time I am against if this becomes ideology. What’s wrong with that? It is an honest question.

The problem is when what you call an ideology is actually just “acceptance of people who are different”. No one is out there telling kids that they can’t be a binary gender, no one is saying you have to be a different gender from what you were assigned at birth. What they’re saying is that it’s ok for people to exist without being the binary gender they’re assigned at birth.

So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes across as “I oppose the existence of people who aren’t their assigned at birth gender”, given that those people do exist you can see how people might find your statement offensive.

In terms of how long people who don’t fit birth gender existed - multiple non-European societies had words for them and accepted them pre-colonization (variations of two-spirit in Native American cultures iirc, I can’t recall the Polynesian term at all), and there’s plenty of examples of individuals in Europe (where it was frequently punished so there’s reason to hide). There were even treatment centers for people that recognized trans people existed, but due to the time gender confirmation surgery wasn’t available - those were intentionally targeted by Nazi germany and all documentation, treatment plans, wee destroyed and the patients were sent to death camps (remember the holocaust also targeted LGBT people, that’s where the pink triangle comes from).

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

#45
In my childhood I had many school experiences elementary through high school:

- Lower income schools

- Higher income schools

- Gifted programs within each

- Private schools

I wasn't homeschooled but I'll say this: Anytime I was put into the "outgroup", I think I was worse off because of it. Being challenged in school really wasn't all it was cracked up to be. All of the "advancement" I achieved in that age was self-study after school and on weekends. The "gifted" programs I was a part of just served to separate me from the rest of the kids, and you inherently have to deal with this false idea that you're better or different than other kids for being in those programs. I think that can be _very_ damaging for some, I saw it with many of my friends. Especially when it came time for college, turns out most colleges couldn't care less what gifted program you were in when you were young. Most (75%) of my close friends were considered gifted at some point, and very few (All of this to say, I think schools should be thought of as more of an incubator for social wellness and play with education as a side effect rather than the other way around. If a kid really wants to they can learn as much as they want after school with the infinite knowledgebase that is the internet. If you think about it as a way to develop social skills over straight-up Knowledge, I would personally just put them in public school and avoid the trouble and social removal that comes along with private school.

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>My kids are ahead of their peers academically and socially, >socially How are they ahead socially? Are they so cool that the other kids don't talk or play with them? What does ahead mean here?

> Are they so cool that the other kids don't talk or play with them? Look, I'm sorry your mom told you that but that's really not how it works!

Bruh, I'm asking you how it works. Stand up for yourself and qualify what you mean by your kids being "ahead socially".

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

#47
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with opposing any ideology? For example i am 100% for gender equality etc, but at the same time I am against if this becomes ideology. What’s wrong with that? It is an honest question.

The problem is when what you call an ideology is actually just “acceptance of people who are different”. No one is out there telling kids that they can’t be a binary gender, no one is saying you have to be a different gender from what you were assigned at birth. What they’re saying is that it’s ok for people to exist without being the binary gender they’re assigned at birth. So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes a…

Most people are fine with tolerating the 'gender identity' beliefs of others, up to a point. It's like that for other beliefs too. For example, if you're an atheist then you should not have any issue with your neighbor attending church each week and praying with other like-minded people.

However if you were having a religious belief imposed on you - like, being compelled to pray under threat of being fired, having every previously secular space converted into a place of worship, children in school getting taught it as if it's fact - then that would be a problem.

Same for 'gender identity' beliefs. The ideology is that any claims of 'gender identity' must be believed and that this should override sex, so for instance a man who says he has a 'female gender identity' is a woman and should be treated as such in every regard, according to this point of view. Children in school are being taught this as if it's truth rather than a belief.

This has real-world implications. If a man wants to cross-dress and pretend he's a woman in the company of other like-minded people, that's not really anybody else's business. This can be tolerated like any other private belief and practise of it. But if he starts using his claims of 'gender identity' to impose himself in female-only spaces, disregarding women's boundaries and consent, then that becomes a problem for very many women. And a lot of men find this problematic too.

It's even worse in places where law and policy have been altered to further impose this ideology. Women in prison have been raped by male inmates who were incarcerated there as a result of claiming to have a 'female gender identity'. Female athletes are being pushed out of their own competitions by men who pretend to be women. Dating spaces for lesbian women are increasingly being invaded by men who call themselves lesbians and cry 'transphobia' when they are asked to leave.

In effect, this ideology of 'gender identity' enables a form of male dominance over women, and is having a profoundly negative effect on women's rights in places where it has been enforced. I think that in itself is good enough reason to oppose it.

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with opposing any ideology? For example i am 100% for gender equality etc, but at the same time I am against if this becomes ideology. What’s wrong with that? It is an honest question.

The problem is when what you call an ideology is actually just “acceptance of people who are different”. No one is out there telling kids that they can’t be a binary gender, no one is saying you have to be a different gender from what you were assigned at birth. What they’re saying is that it’s ok for people to exist without being the binary gender they’re assigned at birth. So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes a…

> So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes across as “I oppose the existence of people who aren’t their assigned at birth gender”, given that those people do exist you can see how people might find your statement offensive.

I'd very kindly like to offer an alternative explanation than your interpretation.

People who don't want their kids exposed to this ideology don't necessarily want trans people to not exist, they might just not want that outcome to be more likely for their own child.

You can support the rights of people to do whatever they want with their own bodies and still think it's one of the least optimal life decision one can make.

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

#49
I was partially homeschooled. I'll explain.

I followed a traditional school system plus homeschooling after school and in summer/winter. My parents are university professors so they mostly taught Math and English to me.

All in all it made my life considerably miserable. I didn't have holidays. My holidays had way more workload than my school. Imagine this: 4 hours of piano practice every day (applicable) plus extracurricular studies for English and Mathematics, usually more difficult than what the school taught and uninterested to me.

Anyway I think my example is quite unique and I believe you will follow your children's interests. But in any way please do not force your will to your kid. He is going to hate you for life.

Also, homeschooling requires certain traits that I don't think everyone has. I'd be frank and say that most parents are not suitable for homeschooling their kids unless they are trained in pedagogical education. It's one thing to learn and know stuffs and it's another to teach it effectively to someone else. It's a third to teach it to your own kid (that is, even being a middle school teacher does not mean you are suitable to teach your own kids. I have seen many bad examples).

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are they so cool that the other kids don't talk or play with them? Look, I'm sorry your mom told you that but that's really not how it works!

Bruh, I'm asking you how it works. Stand up for yourself and qualify what you mean by your kids being "ahead socially".

Just take the L, bruh.
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