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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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I rent server rack space at a datacenter where I have a beefy workstation to do all my work. I use VS Code Remote and SSH port forwarding. The workstation has fast 2TB NVMe and 64gb of ram, 16 cores and a RTX GPU. It's actually cheaper and faster than our production cloud server. I tried Github Codespaces and thought it was cool but wasn't nearly as fast as my remote workstation.

nice - I've also found VS Code Remote + SSH to be pretty fantastic

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

$60/yr vs thousands of $ upfront for a comparable desktop or notebook machine. Not to mention the superior network connectivity (10 gigabit/s). In fact, there are no 10gbps options from the common last mile carriers available at any price (AT&T, Crapcast). And if they did offer it, it'd probably be $500USD/mo+ just for Internet. AT&T has a 5gbps fiber plan available for $250USD+/mo, but there are very few (>10 fracti…

That sounds really low. Do you mind sharing where you rent your racks from?

I was thinking the same. I'm paying about $1600/mo for a 42U rack, 2 x 30A Feeds, and 60mb/s 95th percentile, ipv4 + ipv6

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#44

For Jetbrains users: Step 1. Create an Oracle Cloud account Step 2. Create an Ampere 6 core, 32gb memory instance for like $5/mo Step 3. Use Jetbrains Gateway to run your IDE as a thin client, executing on that host. You get a pretty darn beefy ARM64 VM instance from OCI for extremely cheap. You can get these in a region near you, with low latency. And Jetbrains Gateway works pretty great. On the plus side, this is a…

Jetbrains Gateway is very poor compared to VS Code's remote development plugin. I can't use it without wanting to pull my hair out. It's laggy, installing plugins is painful (per project?!), etc..

Has it improved in the last year?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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No because I want the entire development environment to run locally (and anywhere else) without WAN connectivity.

You could still totally lock it down and deny WAN access but holepunch just for your vpn of choice.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#46
Frankly I dont get the appeal. And I've also used these in a really polished env (a company rhyming with schmookle) where decades of r&d had gone into building this. Where these are useful (though a pain to use) is if you have to work on a system whose components that cannot be built individually. Ie you need a production grade spanner, and env with all of the 15 microservice dependencies with their 15 dependencies each with their 15 dependencies each and so on.

At this point id question if I want to be this tiny piece of a tiny cog in a tiny gear among a billion gears in the huge clunky machine (comp and bottom layer of Maslow hierarchy aside).

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the advantage of having the workstation at a datacenter in this context?

$60/yr vs thousands of $ upfront for a comparable desktop or notebook machine. Not to mention the superior network connectivity (10 gigabit/s). In fact, there are no 10gbps options from the common last mile carriers available at any price (AT&T, Crapcast). And if they did offer it, it'd probably be $500USD/mo+ just for Internet. AT&T has a 5gbps fiber plan available for $250USD+/mo, but there are very few (>10 fracti…

> The workstation has fast 2TB NVMe and 64gb of ram, 16 cores and a RTX GPU.

> $60/yr vs thousands of $ upfront for a comparable desktop or notebook machine.

I don't think we're talking about the same things here.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#48

Most of the CS classes at my university have moved on to an online Jupyter environment with VS Code preinstalled. It lets students spawn an environment with all the required software for their class preinstalled. E.g. For Computer System it spawns an environment with GDB pre-installed, while for Intro to AI it has PyTorch/Python3 pre-installed

Having more grads coming out of university unprepared and expecting even more handholding (this time in the form of devcontainers in the cloud preconfigured and "ready", etc) really does not bode well for the health of our industry long term.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone using cloud dev environments (e.g. Codespaces/Replit) at work?

#50
I don't really see the appeal. We don't even use the same dev environments at work, some use vscode, others use pycharm or codeblocks or whatever. We have code locally, on github, on gitlab and in other places.

Also I can't really say that I've heard anyone outside of this thread who is excited about this at all. I see people here have different ideas but personally I've never heard of it from anyone I work with or know directly.

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