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Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Yeah sure let's move to the South Bay and live in the 12th circle of Hell, a.k.a., the worst abomination of city planning known to North America. San Jose used to be a city on the upswing but after the riots and COVID it has the feeling of a shell of a city that is being kept alive by the nice infrastructure they built there a short while ago. Sunnyvale is peak suburbia -- endless tracts of suburban homes and strip malls with not a single good piece of public transit infrastructure to speak of (VTA has terrible station planning and trains from CalTrain comes every few millennia). Cupertino is basically a walled community where only people with incomes of over $500k gain access. Milpitas is a city that essentially doesn't exist, not even the people who I know live there admit its existence. Los Altos is like Cupertino but everyone has a Stanford education and is a next-level evolved NIMBY, and Los Gatos is kinda like that but with more wine and pretentiousness. Saratoga and Campbell are so deep inside the suburban critical mass that it takes ~30 minutes to drive to anything of note, and you'll be blasting your AC while you do so because the coastal fog burns off very quickly in those parts. Outside of the aforementioned tech conferences there aren't many things to do in the Bay Area -- people who live there have been drawn in by either the good schools or jobs.

... all that being said, I have lived in the Bay Area for a long time and do not intend to leave anytime soon. There aren't many other places in the world that can be called hubs of biotech, software and semiconductors all at the same time. Many parts of the South Bay are S-tier in terms of safety while maintaining the same price point as SF, so if you prioritize safety over having a life outside the confines of your computer terminal you return to after your 8-6 job, then the South Bay is actually pretty good. If you want to be able to hit the beach after a night of raving and clubbing preceded by 5-star dining and zuck-surfing on the Bay, while being willfully ignorant about the constant risk of a homeless man jumping out of the bushes at you, then SF is your best bet.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Scandinavian here. Had a very brief attempt at Silicon Valley and SFO, 2012. It seemed like a Disneyland of tech. In the end all I got was some very great parties, friendly and inviting people whom I didnt realize were just shmoozing me. Most of that was outright lying. 0% of the connections and the "leads" got anywhere I threw a bunch of sand in the air and it came crashing down to the ground fast. I would have love…

It's been years (still connected with a few) but working for multiple Norden companies and living in Finland for a time. I found technical discussions and connections initiated there were generally quite genuine and consider a few Finns and Swedes friends and we take semiregularly.

Born and raised in the Bay Area, for honest and useful tech discussions, especially early in career, maker spaces, super happy dev house, and some other events (I won't mention since I'm not sure they still go on) were better than YC meetups, etc. in terms of what you mention - honesty, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Generalizations suck, too. Big companies are made of small teams. Some are nice, some aren’t. A lot comes down to the immediate manager.

And those small teams merge / move resources 'people' at various times. On a startup you start small and expand under un/under qualified leadership where getting a home run will erase early mistakes. You can get nice for both places but one has a full hr with paperwork for you to fill out while the other will probably screw up your taxes in some way. Startups can be great "the owner pays for lunch" or bad "the owner…

Nice thing is you’ll get to interview with almost every employee if it’s small enough. Should be easy to sus out whether it’s one of the good or bad places.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Welcome to SF!

Big +1 to the meetup, hackathon and conference scene.

There is no city with as many events as SF. Follow this other local with a pulse on the local meetup scene:

https://twitter.com/michelleefang/status/1675997093989842944

+1 to building up a GitHub profile. Find something interesting at a meet up or hackathon to explore in your free time and do it out in the open on GitHub. Learn by doing. And a good GH profile with good code samples helps tremendously when applying for jobs.

+1 to eventually finding an in-person job. Remote has huge advantages as you know, but being in an office with a few people you really gel with has massive advantages for learning, getting things done, and building life long personal connections. I’m fully remote now but consider my SF office days the glory days of career growth and fun.

My advice on this is to look for the right people to work with… A manager that is a good mentor and peers that are fun to work with. Id work at a boring company with a great boss and colleagues over the most exciting startup pitch or growth any day.

Since you’re gainfully employed and have some free time, take your time with all of the above!_

I truly believe all of the above is easier to find in SF than most places by getting out and about in the city.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Whatever you do, do not join a startup, unless you really, really know what you want to do and the startup has work in that area and you get a sense they'd have really good mentors in the company.

The reason I'm saying this is that, if you are only going to be around until January, that's not long enough to upskill on anything meaningful. Sure, you could get some good keywords on your resume, and if that's what you want, that's fine. But if your goal is to improve in a meaningful way, that's not going to cut it, unless the startup is truly exceptional with amazing people. Most startups aren't like that.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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I think another comment mentioning look into meetups is the most solid advice in this thread. To be honest, your post is a bit of a mess in both what you are doing (and have done) and what you are seeking. You clearly have some skills since you are getting paid to be remote and work on technical projects. I would consider taking a step back and figuring out a way to package that. Next, what sort of external engagemen…

Also - I'm only in the bay area as I need to be, but reach out. Happy to answer questions, figure a time to meet up, etc. I have no knowledge where to hang out..Coupa Cafe isn't what it was, Red House in Mountain View isn't what it was.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Scandinavian here. Had a very brief attempt at Silicon Valley and SFO, 2012. It seemed like a Disneyland of tech. In the end all I got was some very great parties, friendly and inviting people whom I didnt realize were just shmoozing me. Most of that was outright lying. 0% of the connections and the "leads" got anywhere I threw a bunch of sand in the air and it came crashing down to the ground fast. I would have love…

Seemed a cultural mismatch between Sweden and California.

I think many Germans working in Switzerland would also call the Swiss "outright lying", but that's because the Swiss are consensus-oriented. Perhaps you were like a German in Switzerland (thumbs up).

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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Scandinavian here. Had a very brief attempt at Silicon Valley and SFO, 2012. It seemed like a Disneyland of tech. In the end all I got was some very great parties, friendly and inviting people whom I didnt realize were just shmoozing me. Most of that was outright lying. 0% of the connections and the "leads" got anywhere I threw a bunch of sand in the air and it came crashing down to the ground fast. I would have love…

I was in Bay Area from 2015-2018 and because of the connections I build there I occasionally get to work on projects that pay 10x higher than what I get paid for in my home country.

To OP, I recommend to network with open mind and enjoy the tech savvy diversity.

In addition to meetup I recommend cold emailing companies and asking founders in your area of interest directly for picking up a brain. The ecosystem is very welcoming.

Re: Ask HN: Just moved to SF. How can I leverage my new location to skill up in dev?

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I'm hoping that the OP and others don't take the parent comment too much to heart. I lived in the bay area before I got into tech, working in its restaurants and grocery stores for about a decade before teaching myself software engineering and computer science and changing my circumstances dramatically. I've also had friends swallowed up by the bay area, also to violence and drugs. They all had in common that they we…

It is super dangerous. The homeless and cracked up mentally ill patients who buy from the open air drug markets are highly aggressive and totally unpredictable. I was on a crowded bus at 2pm by Powell and a homeless man broke a 40oz bottle of beer over the back of my head by surprise. Nobody not even the bus driver did anything. Claimed I was following him. 6ft guy

My laptop was stolen at a coffee shop while I was typing on it, guy went running. Apple MB and cloud locked but they stole it all the same.

They stole my bike even though it was cheap. My friend was robbed at gunpoint for his laptop. I personally saw a stabbing in the Tenderloin. A man was shot pont blank sitting in a car behind our house. It’s dangerous AF

Noisebridge was fun until it shut down. Half of the stores downtown are boarded up now. Walgreens left because of theft they couldn’t do anything about bc of liberal policies. The whole mall is boarded up. It’s a long long list of exited stores and companies. Much of the real estate both commercial and residential sits empty because the landlords refuse to reduce the rent since they won’t be able to raise it later bc of liberal policies.

The meetups were good before covid that was the one perk. But moving to SF was one of the worst mistakes of my life. Again, run away screaming

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