Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

news.ycombinator.com

41–50 of 328 posts

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#41
Two things,

a) I categorize patterns of discussions that return again and again on here and they slowly become less stimulating until I stop looking. Most internet sites present the same information again and again, it doesn't satisfy anymore.

b) I get annoyed, say something disagreeable and wisely take break from internet commentary and reading until I've moved on from whatever was annoying me. It can take months.

Working with your hands on real life objects helps a lot too. You no longer desire to follow thoughts into addictive loops when it also hurts your body at the same time.

For example, following a youtube video tutorial on repairing bicycles and cars, makes it plainly evident that you have to choose your battles, come up with creative solutions for your own environment and suffer some scars to actually follow through on your stimulating thoughts. Your back will hurt, you will find rusty bolts you can't move no matter how much you think it and have to let go of hyperfocusing on one solution and reframe your headspace.

The internet and computing has a very low physical cost to participating in stimulating thoughts. Be wary of that fact.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#42
post #24

I’m not sure it’s ADHD. It seems that you just enjoy reading about interesting things and fantasising about doing them yourself - but you don’t enjoy ACTUALLY doing them. Every creative field is full of people like that. These are the people who’ve been talking about writing that novel for the past 15 years. Or „painters” who paint one picture a year. I don’t think it’s neccessarily a medical condition - just a chara…

> I’m not sure it’s ADHD. I don't think OP meant because this happens to him, he has ADHD. He just wanted to know how other with ADHD deal with this situation.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#43
post #15

> There’s a never ending number of things I bookmark. One of the key features of ADHD is a never-ending list of things to do. Edward M. Hallowell (who wrote "Driven to Distraction") remarks that perhaps it is the most characteristic feature of ADHD. Previously, browser crashes saved my sanity— killing dozens of open tabs with fascinating articles. Now I try to let it go . In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will…

I've found asking myself "why am I doing what I'm doing" helps - I stop midway in comments and delete them because I realize there's nothing to gain for myself or others. Helps me with overeating as well, am I doing this because I'm hungry or bored? It doesn't have to be a classicly productive answer "it's fun" is clearly a good reason, but a nudge towards positive actions helps me personally.

I understand some will find this hard though, and am not suggesting it's a fix if you have ADHD.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#45
post #40

i don't want to sound like a shill but stimulants definitely help. if you really have ADHD at least try them once it will significantly improve your quality of life and help u overcome the impairment.

Yup. The meds help. It was a big improvement from less then barely functional to moderately functional.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#46
How do I manage? with the help of assistive tools. Calendars, timers, reminders, alarms. They all contribute to the ability to get something done. You also need to learn techniques to help control the emotions that are involved with the procrastination you face. The good news is you can improve. The bad news is, if you have ADHD, you'll probably never be at the same level of someone who doesn't suffer from it.

My comment history offers other advice and suggestions for ADHD. It's a long struggle but it's worth it.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#47
post #15

> There’s a never ending number of things I bookmark. One of the key features of ADHD is a never-ending list of things to do. Edward M. Hallowell (who wrote "Driven to Distraction") remarks that perhaps it is the most characteristic feature of ADHD. Previously, browser crashes saved my sanity— killing dozens of open tabs with fascinating articles. Now I try to let it go . In a Zen/stoic way, knowing that nothing will…

Yeah, this is definitely how I ended up dealing with it too. I just replaced my computer as the motherboard failed and hadn't setup sync on chrome. I have 1000s of links I no longer have access to and haven't missed them once in 3 months.

File and forget is incredibly effective when you have ADHD. There are just too many things that are "interesting" that you'll never have time to do anything about.

Just write it down (or an equivalent) so your brain can stop worrying about it. You'll find in a few weeks time the things that didn't actually matter are gone.

When I was having anxiety problems it was also an extremely effective way of getting out of the circular thinking loop. Write down all your worries on a new tab in Notepad++. All the worries stopped circulating. When I might occasionally look at that tab in a month or two's time. usually I didn't even care about any of those things anymore. Even though they'd all been thought obsessing distractions a couple of months earlier.

And lists, lists, lists. I'm at my most happiest when every day I create a short-ish to-do list for work and a list for home and throw it away at the start of the next day. I try and keep it below 7-8 things, in reality I often get 3-5 done. I fall out of the habit fairly frequently, and that's often when I start feeling overwhelmed.

Plus exercise, exercise, exercise. If I haven't exercised for more than about 5 days, I start becoming a right asshole who gets anxious about the most ridiculous things.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#49
Not ADHD⁰ but I have similar issues with HN and similar. This usually results in a great many open tabs, different ones in different places¹, spread over numerous browser windows where applicable. I need a better way to manage it all but what currently happens is:

* Anything not being immediately looked at is shovelled to a different desktop to help keep focus. Tabs on phones are move to this desktop on one of the other machines.

* When browser memory use starts to climb it is time for a pruning session. Things that I don't really remember usually weren't that significant and are just dropped. Other get filed with notes in my collection of “possible projects/playthings” text files that are kept on a server accessible to all my devices⁴. This can take some time as I usually get distracted and end up climbing back down the rabbit-holes that resulted in some of those open tabs in the first place…

* I've started actively trying to be “evil” with myself and controlling the amount of time I'm here. This sometimes means passing up on links in favour of others, or just opening the tab but not looking at it until later (if I don't end up having time later this either gets closed or moved to that dumping ground desktop). If something is relevant to particular projects or idea groups the links (source and HN thread) go directly into the relevant project text files, skipping further attention/triage, to be looked at in more detail in that mythical future time that I properly look into said project(s) again.

I used to use a mind-mapping tool to keep the lists of lists of related lists of lists & notes together, but that became unwieldy so went back to tetx files. I've tried or just looked at various apps² and not spotted anything that matches what I want. A couple of those many project files concern writing my own tool to manage my brain-dumps, or at least a tool to help index/search the lists/notes as they are currently stored.

Occasional lost windows full of tabs due to browser crashes that have had no lasting effect on my life should probably be a sign that I should just stop caring to a large extent, but that is never going to happen!

----

[0] unless I am but undiagnosed!

[1] home main PC, laptop, phone, work machine, old phone that I haven't decommissioned yet as moving the FirstDirect banking app over is a PITA, old phone I use for work as I refuse to have Teams & other work stuff on personal devices

[2] like OneNote, keep and various FOSS options – Keep sometimes acts as a temporary³ dumping ground for things on their way to the text files

[3] though not temporary enough, I have too much in there ATM

[4] and, or course, backed up & historied along with other work, not actually in proper source control like I almost certainly should⁵, but at least in backups that allow access to older versions

[5] yet another not-on-going project being to rationalise how I store and backup everything.

Re: Ask HN: How do ADHD people cope on here?

#50
I set "noprocrast" in my profile: maxvisit=30 and minaway=360 (just upped from 120). So 30 mins for looking at the frontpage links and writing a comment if I want to. Then 6 hours where I'm reminded that I'm opening HN on an impulse.

For the links, anything that is a 5-10 min read I'll do on the spot. I try to be mindful with more involved content (long post, video, tutorial,...): I save the link in my inbox file with a small description of the content for reference or to read during a break – or never.

Looking at my inbox, I often delete links without opening them because, in hindsight, I saved them to have something (anything) to read. It's the same as opening the fridge multiple times and lowering your expectations each time until you find good enough food. By setting noprocrast, you put a time lock on your imaginary fridge to stop you from mindless snacking.

Post reply on HN