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Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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Automation is nothing new. By contrast, full time jobs are a new thing. Not having to spend most of your day getting food, water, and heating is new. We just have other ambitions besides feeding ourselves and keeping warm. That's where you end up working 15 hours/day.

AI won't change lifestyle much more than the other things do.

If you're not already forming meaningful relationships and communities, you won't when more things are automated. That's where the dystopia is: everyone is chatting with real friends constantly, and yet more lonely than ever.

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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I generally agree, but want to add that we aren't that far off from your last sentence.

We are already there.

No we are not? I’m having a great life and have zero property and no investments.

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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We are already there.

No we are not? I’m having a great life and have zero property and no investments.

You and I are two datapoints. As we speak, there are millions of kids in UK without enough to eat. UK is a first world country, and this should not be happening.

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No we are not? I’m having a great life and have zero property and no investments.

You and I are two datapoints. As we speak, there are millions of kids in UK without enough to eat. UK is a first world country, and this should not be happening.

It shouldn't be happening. Perhaps the grants of money need to be earmarked for food to ensure parents spend it on that?

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You and I are two datapoints. As we speak, there are millions of kids in UK without enough to eat. UK is a first world country, and this should not be happening.

It shouldn't be happening. Perhaps the grants of money need to be earmarked for food to ensure parents spend it on that?

It's not that the parents are exploiting their children to fund their lifestyles, it's that they really have little to no income because people are living on poverty.

The government is not working for the average person, and it is beyond me why so many people in England still vote for Torries after so many years of ineptitude on public display.

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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We've had automatic coffee machines since the 1950s, and yet Starbucks employs over 300k people. Everything being possibly automated doesn't mean everything will be automated. There is always value in human work, even if we are objectively worse at working than robots and AI.

Imagine cofee shop where You just sit at first empty table, says few words to and hologram and than the food and cofee materializes (let's just ignore the technoloy side of this thought experiment). And after You are finisheed the table cleans itself and bill is automatically settled without any interaction.

Are You sure that in this kind of world cofee shops with real people waiting tables and baristas making cofee would still exist? Because I am not sure that badly paid people are the essential part of Starbucks experience.

Re: Ask HN: What will everyone do if everything is automated?

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post #47
post #14

We've had automatic coffee machines since the 1950s, and yet Starbucks employs over 300k people. Everything being possibly automated doesn't mean everything will be automated. There is always value in human work, even if we are objectively worse at working than robots and AI.

Imagine cofee shop where You just sit at first empty table, says few words to and hologram and than the food and cofee materializes (let's just ignore the technoloy side of this thought experiment). And after You are finisheed the table cleans itself and bill is automatically settled without any interaction. Are You sure that in this kind of world cofee shops with real people waiting tables and baristas making cofee…

Of course. Human contact is an integral part of the Starbucks experience; otherwise they wouldn't do things like writing your name on the drink or having a million different coffee customisation options.

Your scenario could work with McDonald's, where people go for the cheap convenient food. But the fact that Starbucks exists along with good butchers, grocers, and fancy independent coffee shops is proof that the human factor will always be a crucial part of food shopping.

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