No issue here. Gmail seems to have an issue with spam lately.
Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you really have to stick with Microsoft, Google, AWS SES, or mayyyyybe FastMail The left-field approach would be to build your own client on top of an email API like mailgun or sendgrid (excluding the free tiers). But those are expensive for a personal use-case.
I've had bad luck with delivery on Mailgun, particularly to Yahoo and Hotmail/Outlook/Live.com. They have good luck reaching Gmail.
did you pay for the dedicated IP address? My delivery was good with sendgrid after I payed the $80.
Re: Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?
#43A big way to check if an email address is valid & belongs to a user is to see if it pops up in leaks. It also ages an address.
The more leaks the better. So ymmv when you create a new account.
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One of the common spam flags are email addresses or names similar to yours or your affiliates.
It was a totally different name. It just didn't like the Proton domain and this is extremely uncool because all the emails I've gotten from Proton users in the past were definitely not spam and were all authentic people. I can't say the same for Gmail.
Remember when Gmail was new and you needed an invite from an existing user to create an account?
Yahoo mail was tossing those invites right into spam.
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#45I see Proton Mail addresses and think the owner is paranoid, hiding something or odd in some way. Similarly, if I see aol or yahoo addresses I think old or not tech savvy. It is not necessarily fair, but they are my first instincts and I am sure it is true of others.
Do you lock the door on your house? Do you close the curtains on your bedroom window with a neighbor 20 feet away?
Why? Are you paranoid and odd?
I'm definitely odd that I read the stories of unlucky people's entire lives F'd over because they happily used all the standard convenient google services and then google killed them, in error, and with no human customer service to correct it, and I decide that maybe we shouldn't all just cooperate with a bad thing, and try to get myself some other service providers.
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I treat it the same and when we have an unwieldy number of applications (always), I just skip over those.
Good to know that is a factor, thanks. You and the parent posters' disclosure is appreciated.
Maybe you don't want to have to work with people like that anyway.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just make your own personal email address/domain. I already have my domain firstlastname.com with Google domains. I can setup email forwarding for free. All goes to my gmail address. As far as normal people their reaction was "That's cool you have your own email like that"
firstlast@firstlast.com always seemed a little redundant to as an email address; and me@firstlast.com also sounds ... weird
I use mail@firstlast.com
I also sometimes use first@firstlast.com because some services don't allow emails starting with keywords, Facebook for example doesn't, or didn't at the time I tried, allow mail / info / admin etc.
Re: Ask HN: Are Protonmail.com Addresses Snubbed?
#48have you tried the protonmail provided @pm.me extension? This has worked for me for getting past spam filters. the @protonmail.com extension almost always gets forwarded to spam. if you dig around in the settings of your email, you should find this option under Account Settings -> Addresses -> Default. i can't recall, but it may be part of the paid version of protonmail.
That's probably because you have to pay to send using pm.me, and spammers use free accounts
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had bad luck with delivery on Mailgun, particularly to Yahoo and Hotmail/Outlook/Live.com. They have good luck reaching Gmail.
did you pay for the dedicated IP address? My delivery was good with sendgrid after I payed the $80.
I tried to but they didn't want to assign one due to low volume (at the time). On the one hand I get it, on another I wish they were more honest about their product on its listing.