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Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Apple makes mistakes too with it's many hardware-related and boot loop issues. The iPhone X was practically a lemon.

What are you talking about? I used it for 3 years, not a single problem nor have I heard of any. Cite your assertions.

A sample size of 1 then, ask anyone who sells them though, or look up boot loop issues with the X on the internet, or ask my sister who went through 2 faulty ones.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Comparing Samsung to Apple is laughable. Samsung is clueless when it comes to product design. Their strategy can be best described as “throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks”. Latest attempt: foldable phones. Foldable phones will never be a thing again and their desperate marketing campaign is embarrassing. The only thing keeping them in the ring is their inarguably impressive manufacturing capabilities that a…

What are you talking about? Foldable phone sales have been shaprly rising every year and they're a massive success for Samsung. Did you actually look at any real facts before you spewed your crock?

3D TVs sales once rose sharply too and now they’re dead. I laughed at those back then too. Samsung sold ~10M foldable phones in the same time Apple sold ~240M iPhones. It might be a success to Samsung but it’s a drop in the bucket overall. The first wave of people that buy them will realize it’s a gimmick and sales will drop after equilibrium between marketing reach and consumer dissatisfaction is reached.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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> After all these years, Android phones still feel like cheap plastic to me, and the interface feels cheaply put together.

This feels like a horribly dishonest sentence to start with. There are loads and loads of quality, well-built products in this world and many of them are even Android phones.

It will take you minutes to find them if you just use Google.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Apple makes mistakes too with it's many hardware-related and boot loop issues. The iPhone X was practically a lemon.

See also the later Intel Mac keyboards, the display ribbon cable failures on the M1 Mac, both of which have caused work devices to fail on me

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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My current phone, that I'm very happy with, was 120€ while an iPhone 14 starts at 1009€ so I'm not exactly worried about lack of more Apple-like options.

I have an old Air and frankly, although the battery life, weight and hardware in general are fine, I didn't find the software so much better than Windows. Even in the hardware side, there are other brands catching up.

The problem with Linux is another entirely different story.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Maybe try... a good Android phone? This question is silly. The Pixel or any top-end Samsung is equivalent or better than the iPhone in hardware. The Android and iOS user interfaces are similar enough that it's mostly personal preference and familiarity.

Yeah, Samsung has been doing an amazing job innovating with foldable phones which are sharply rising in sales (despite commanding prices higher than Apple phones).

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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I'm not being facetious here but I have no idea what you mean by "apple quality". I've been using Macbook Pros for a long time. In my opinion "Apple Quality" died way back in 2013, possibly 2015. After that, they started introducing user-hostile phones, laptops, etc. The touchbar is a travesty and now you have to pay more money to have a normal experience. The feeling of the laptops and aesthetics are nice but the pa…

> Apple produces garbage products.

That's pure Apple bashing BS.

It could be refuted in so many ways, but I'll pick an easy one.

Apple silicon Macbooks Pros.

They have no competition. The nearest competition you can find needs to be plugged into the mains, and even then it doesn't perform as well as Apple.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing Samsung to Apple is laughable. Samsung is clueless when it comes to product design. Their strategy can be best described as “throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks”. Latest attempt: foldable phones. Foldable phones will never be a thing again and their desperate marketing campaign is embarrassing. The only thing keeping them in the ring is their inarguably impressive manufacturing capabilities that a…

> Foldable phones will never be a thing again While I agree w/r/tv their current incarnation, eventually “rollable” screens will be perfected and a shape-shifting phone will be popular. Either that, or AR will be thoroughly developed and the “phones as a concept will go away entirely. That’s a long way from today, but it’s not “never”.

The current incarnation is exactly what I’m talking about. You don’t need to ship it and market the hell out of it just in anticipation for some other actually usable incarnation to reach maturity.

The waiting until a technology is mature enough to be useful to consumers is exactly what Apple is known for and what separates them from the rest.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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I'm not being facetious here but I have no idea what you mean by "apple quality". I've been using Macbook Pros for a long time. In my opinion "Apple Quality" died way back in 2013, possibly 2015. After that, they started introducing user-hostile phones, laptops, etc. The touchbar is a travesty and now you have to pay more money to have a normal experience. The feeling of the laptops and aesthetics are nice but the pa…

2012, it died a horrific death in 2012. 3 MBAs didn't last me more than 2 years. I still use Macs from 2007.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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What are you talking about? Foldable phone sales have been shaprly rising every year and they're a massive success for Samsung. Did you actually look at any real facts before you spewed your crock?

3D TVs sales once rose sharply too and now they’re dead. I laughed at those back then too. Samsung sold ~10M foldable phones in the same time Apple sold ~240M iPhones. It might be a success to Samsung but it’s a drop in the bucket overall. The first wave of people that buy them will realize it’s a gimmick and sales will drop after equilibrium between marketing reach and consumer dissatisfaction is reached.

Yes, going from 0 to 5 is how new innovative products work. The iPhone you keep dragging out didn't sell all that great either - the shipment were counted in millions (not tens of millions you quite for Samsung) during first years of them as well.

I frankly find your aggressive tone here utterly bizarre - why do you so strongly need to defend Apple here? Can you explain that?

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