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Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by dale_glass »

zzzbra wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #9

I've been trying to wean myself off phones completely since the demise of the SE, but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). As a compromise I've been using the Palm Phone[0] for a while now (before that the Unihertz Atom, which is quite the chonker, albeit with a small screen). It's the size of a credit card and ha…

> but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). am I the only one who finds this horrifying

It's just the progression of things. Things first shifted online. Some are now going with apps because apps are a better fit.

Eg, if you're calling a taxi, what are you going to call one from, if not a phone? A phone is the best tool for the job because if they come and can't find you, then can call you back.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by asplake »

rjzzleep wrote: post #28
hedwall wrote: post #7

I use the iPhone 13 mini, it's marginally bigger than the SE.

I really dislike the fact that it only has Face ID in the age of masks, but otherwise I too think it's a great device. I'm surprised how quite a few apps in that ecosystem don't support the small formfactor though(i.e. keyboard doesn't close and you can't press next in some apps) even though it's not like in android where there is a thousand formfactors to support.

Happy iPhone 13 mini user here: it took a long time but unlocking while masked does now work

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by foft »

sandis wrote: post #33
foft wrote: post #29

Wow, about 3 days after my five year warranty ran out. They don't hang about do they! I was planning to keep it running until the next Apple phone with 3.5mm jack. Are there any 3rd party companies providing security updates to keep such working hardware running?

> I was planning to keep it running until the next Apple phone with 3.5mm jack. So forever?

Yes it works well. I have no need to ever change it until the hardware fails in say 20 years.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by tazjin »

zzzbra wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #9

I've been trying to wean myself off phones completely since the demise of the SE, but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). As a compromise I've been using the Palm Phone[0] for a while now (before that the Unihertz Atom, which is quite the chonker, albeit with a small screen). It's the size of a credit card and ha…

> but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). am I the only one who finds this horrifying

No, but the thing is that for the majority of people nowadays this is normal and unsurprising. If you don't have a phone, a lot of things become unavailable and 99% of people (maybe even more!) don't consider that strange.

You can sometimes work around parts of it. For example there are still taxi dispatchers you can call (but with what? Maybe if you have at least a dumb phone ...) but drivers might be more hesitant to accept those jobs (less precise pickup locations, more ambiguity about destinations etc.). You can rent some of the public bikes using a public transport card, but none of the scooters - and those are much more available.

In highly modernised places there is simply a baseline assumption about the tech that everyone has available to them ...

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by asplake »

tinus_hn wrote: post #40
rjzzleep wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really dislike the fact that it only has Face ID in the age of masks, but otherwise I too think it's a great device. I'm surprised how quite a few apps in that ecosystem don't support the small formfactor though(i.e. keyboard doesn't close and you can't press next in some apps) even though it's not like in android where there is a thousand formfactors to support.

You can actually weaken Face ID so it works with masks.

You can train it to work with masks. Judging by the prompts it pays increased attention to the eyes

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

danwee wrote: post #36
zzzbra wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). am I the only one who finds this horrifying

Not only that. Many banks and government services nowadays require a phone (and/or phone number) as well. Their excuse? MFA. So idiotic. I can understand that they want to improve auth for the vast majority of their customers, but don't make it mandatory FFS!

Too many people, even here, praise MFA when they reveal how weak their passwords are.

I've never had an auto generated password get broken into. Password databases should've been the solution everyone pushed, not 2FA.

Also, it's really an attempt for these services to cut down on fakes and bots. Its easy to make new emails, but hard to get new numbers that aren't already black/brown listed.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by pdimitar »

zzzbra wrote: post #27
tazjin wrote: post #9

I've been trying to wean myself off phones completely since the demise of the SE, but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). As a compromise I've been using the Palm Phone[0] for a while now (before that the Unihertz Atom, which is quite the chonker, albeit with a small screen). It's the size of a credit card and ha…

> but life in Moscow without a phone is basically impossible (taxis, deliveries, electric scooters, bikes etc. all become pretty much unavailable). am I the only one who finds this horrifying

I don't find it horrifying at all, I remember the times when I had to sit in phone calls to organize a plethora of small things I shouldn't have wasted time on the phone for. To me the modern age where you open an app and do things there has been infinitely better. Ordering pizza, calling a taxi, paying for delivered groceries, paying bills etc. -- all through phone.

The fact that there are entities out there that want to steal every drop of your attention when you are on your phone does not nullify the usefulness of modern technology. Nor does it guarantee them success.

I'd say that many people happily use technology to improve their lives and dodge all the other crap. For that group the modern age is absolutely great.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by TwoFerMaggie »

I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari.

I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, removing headphone jack, but also in general undermining reparability while preaching sustainability).

So for me the must-have features are 3.5mm jack and relatively small form factor. I ended up getting a Asus Zenfone 9 (actually saw the post from HN first). Have been using it for about a couple weeks and I don't have too many complaints switching to Android. Only gripe I have was that the screen is still way too big. A bigger screen and very thin bezels are of course visually nice, but it's impossible to reach the upper and lower left corner when I use it with my right hand. Welp, I guess that's the compromise that I have to make in exchange for the features more important to me.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by PostOnce »

scrollaway wrote: post #24
PostOnce wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Life is impossible without e-scooter rentals and fast food delivery." -Socrates

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize." So, it's safe to assume GP meant modern life with modern comforts, rather than "my oxygen is only available with an iCloud subscription".

I joke in order to suggest someone reconsider what they may have overlooked.

I personally have never booked anything on a smartphone, and I'm content and perfectly well connected in 2022 in a first world country.

I book things in a browser when I need to book something online, and that is generally on a laptop. It's no less convenient.

In fact, I don't even have a mobile data plan, I just use WiFi. I prepay $10 every 6mo for voice calls, everything else can wait til I have WiFi.

I'm not a surgeon and taking calls while I'm driving isn't going to help anyone in any way that can't wait half an hour.

Phones are overrated, full of ads and casinos, and not as revolutionary as we often suggest.

The average person loses more time and money than they gain by having a mobile phone, I bet.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Post by PostOnce »

doctor_eval wrote: post #35
PostOnce wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Life is impossible without e-scooter rentals and fast food delivery." -Socrates

I know this was a joke, but... The walled city of Athens when Socrates lived measured about 1.5 km (0.93 mi) in diameter.¹ Moscow is among the world's largest cities; the city covers an area of 2,511 square kilometers.² Access to personal transport is an essential part of modern daily life, without which it is difficult to work, live, and even, sometimes, eat. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Athens ² https:…

And yet enormous Moscow somehow functioned before we invented iPhones less than 20 years ago...
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