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Ask HN: What will be the large-scale second-order consequence of AI Art?

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Re: Ask HN: What will be the large-scale second-order consequence of AI Art?

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I'm surprised by the comments on this topic. The art generated by AI is not the product. AI generation is a tool that artists (and non artists to some extent) can use to take away a lot of the tedium. I think of it as AI assisted art. My bets on second order consequences: 1. 3D world generation based on prompts 2. Ambient music and sounds 3. Character modeling 4. And yes, interactive storytelling. Imagine getting the…

> take away a lot of the tedium

What AI takes away is all the hard work and application of talent that happens between articulating "ghost ship flying over futuristic city under moonlight" and having a quality picture of exactly that before your eyes.

That talent and work, with years of practice behind it, is the bulk of what art is.

Not just the talent to execute, but creativity. The AI has a deep imagination, or a facsimile there of, which is being relied upon. For the same prompt, it can generate a vast stream of completely different pictures incorporating different concepts in different ways.

There is still tedium: deciding which of the 200 such pictures that were generated for you do you go with.

Evaluating the output of AI and tweaking prompts and parameters isn't art, but more like constructive art criticism.

If a person A were giving prompts and changing requirements to another person B who produces successive refinements of a picture, B would be readily identified as the artist and not A.

Here is how an artist could use AI: use it to generate ideas, and then incorporate them into their own work.

Re: Ask HN: What will be the large-scale second-order consequence of AI Art?

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I'm surprised by the comments on this topic. The art generated by AI is not the product. AI generation is a tool that artists (and non artists to some extent) can use to take away a lot of the tedium. I think of it as AI assisted art. My bets on second order consequences: 1. 3D world generation based on prompts 2. Ambient music and sounds 3. Character modeling 4. And yes, interactive storytelling. Imagine getting the…

"Tedium" is an odd choice of words.

There will be AI-based music generation soon. Will you say "it takes away the tedium of playing music"? Playing music is a joyful activity. Learning to play it can be tedious but the performance itself is pleasant.

People learn to play a song and then they play it hundreds of times throughout their life even though they could just record it once and let the recording do the "tedious" work of making the sounds!

Drawing is also pleasant. It isn't "gruntwork", though there are tedious tasks within it sometimes. Mostly it is meditative.

The fact that you don't like to draw and you want something that will draw for you is a whole issue in itself.

Would you want something that will dance for you? Ski for you? Flirt and make love for you? Don't worry, you'll be "directing the vision".

It sounds like you don't want to make art, you just want credit for art having been made.

Like, there are people who will use this tool to do amazing stuff, but they're going to have to spend months or years "tediously" learning how to make it do more than what it does out of the box. You know that, right?

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