Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by mtlynch » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:48 PM UTC

HermanMartinus wrote: post #5

I was pretty unhappy with the outage last night. All the user blogs for https://bearblog.dev went down for about an hour and a half (and I had so many emails to respond to this morning). I'm looking to move Bear over to either a Digital Ocean droplet (I have the staging server running on one with SQlite and Litestream running, and believe it could actually scale well), or to Fly.io (to be seen).

I've got several SQLite + Litestream projects running on Fly, and I've been happy with the service. Here's my config if you'd like a reference:

https://github.com/mtlynch/picoshare/blob/b246751d5036fdb332... https://github.com/mtlynch/picoshare/blob/b246751d5036fdb332... https://github.com/mtlynch/picoshare/blob/b246751d5036fdb332...

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by rcarmo » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

rnmp wrote: post #37

rcarmo wrote: post #24

Those of you interested in the Heroku lifestyle and willing to have a quick and painless deployment experience (for simple apps) are welcome to try out Piku, a tiny Heroku-inspired PaaS for your own servers: https://github.com/piku/piku

Have you by any chance tried Dokku? How does it compare with Piku?

Yes, I developed Piku because I did not want to deal with containers on low end platforms like the Raspberry Pi.

These days I run it everywhere, for anything between a headless scraper worker pool to a full blown site.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by econner » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

Yes.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by gday2020 » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

samwillis wrote: post #14

We plan to, but not quite yet. The only thing keeping us on Heroku is the "point in time restore" for Postgres, once another platform (such as Render) has that we will probably make the switch. Having had to use the point in time restore feature before, it's indispensable. Just taken a look at Appliku as others have mentioned it (we are a Django app), that on DigitalOcean with their managed Postgres could be a strong…

Maybe Scalingo? They do have PITR. Very similar to Heroku. I plan to move to them in the near future (also Django app with Postgres).

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by mrkurt » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

nkotov wrote: post #28

This thread will be filled with a ton of alternatives suggesting a "heroku-like experience" on top of some other cloud provider. My honest opinion, don't waste your time with these "shortcuts". Just use the cloud providers directly.

Good thing we (Fly.io) are a cloud provider you can just use directly. :)

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by JanSt » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:51 PM UTC

skrtskrt wrote: post #38

JanSt wrote: post #34

I‘m on DigitalOcean App Platform and pretty happy with it. They keep getting better. Very easy to use and cheaper than heroku.

Seconded, I'm on DigitalOcean App Platform, with further plans to self-manage it more either on individual droplets or a RKE2 cluster built on droplets, but I keep on kicking the can down the road because I don't need any more complexity

Why do you want so self manage? Saving a few bucks is probably not worth the hassle. I pretty much spend zero time on infra

* push to deploy

* auto-restart

* managed db

* easy scaling

* s3 object storage

* don‘t spend time on updates

* web ui (monitoring, basic logging, configuration, ..)

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by dopeboy » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:52 PM UTC

Left it awhile ago - we've gone all in on Render. Aside from these weird intermittent DNS issues Sentry has been flagging, it's been smooth. Our engs love it.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by mrkurt » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:53 PM UTC

samwillis wrote: post #14

We plan to, but not quite yet. The only thing keeping us on Heroku is the "point in time restore" for Postgres, once another platform (such as Render) has that we will probably make the switch. Having had to use the point in time restore feature before, it's indispensable. Just taken a look at Appliku as others have mentioned it (we are a Django app), that on DigitalOcean with their managed Postgres could be a strong…

Heroku's Postgres is still very good.

If I were looking for "very good Postgres", I would go straight to Crunchy Bridge. I don't think a PaaS is going to get anywhere near that level soon (and I work on Fly.io, so I know we're not).

Building a good PaaS and building an amazing managed database service are two problems that overlap less than you think. The moment we can get Crunchy Bridge or someone at a similar level to run their DBs on our infrastructure is the moment we start using them for customer Postgres.

No one knows this yet, but we have managed Redis soft launched in our CLI. Fly + Upstash is a pretty good combo.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by aantix » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:53 PM UTC

The new Hatchbox v2 ( https://hatchbox.io/ ) coupled with a low cost instance from Linode has been a dream for me.

Multiple apps can be deployed to a single server without incurring more costs.

Hatchbox does all of the provisioning.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Heroku?

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Post by shakezula » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:54 PM UTC

I left Heroku in favor of just a hand-configured DigitalOcean droplet. I might try Fly.io but honestly, for what I’m doing, the flexibility of a full Ubuntu box is just too good, even in 2022.