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Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#41
You're not alone, I want even more:

or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites.

I want to open a tab with a page that's an index consisting of the bookmarks of some folder in the bookmarks bar. That's obvious to me: when I'm researching some topic, I drag the interesting finds onto a folder in that bar.

Once I have a list for consulting later, I would like that list to be presented as a list of links, much like Hacker News front page, not as a menu. Menus are BAD ui for links.

Of course I'd like to add icons, re-order, save, nest, group by month, etc.

I've found that Firefox saves all bookmarks (and history) to a sqlite database, so it must be easy to program a little tool to do most things I want.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#43
post #29

I thought it was a commonly held thought that Google didn't want Chrome users using bookmarks because it directly competed with their search (and advertising).

Why click on a bookmark if you can make your users google it?

And if the user is wanting to visit something like Ford.com, Google can charge Ford millions over time to be the first result, pitting them in a bidding war against Chevy for the top result (with tiny ad disclaimer) for a search for "Ford".

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#44

For quickly loading bookmarks, I made an extension that lets you open or add a bookmark by typing a keyword for it into the address bar: https://github.com/binarynate/omnibookmarks I use it constantly (probably hundreds of times per day) to load common pages I use for running by business and living my life.

This looks useful! Thanks for linking

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#45
I think firefox has everything you need already. I use librewolf in linux but any firefox on a desktop OS should behave in the way I describe below.

> i want rich bookmark behavior. This points needs specifics. What do we mean by rich? what are the outcomes we're trying to achieve?

> i want to be able to quickly load common favorite news sites & blogs. > or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. This can be easily achieved through folders in a bookmarks toolbar. For example I have a folder called 'News' with my top 4 sites. When I open the browser, I just right-click on the 'News' folder, click on "open all bookmarks" and those sites open on a tab each. One click and half a second... very efficient!

> or pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole. > and i want it to be intuitive, efficient, and a prominent UX feature set. In a rabbit hole window with X tabs -> right click on the tabs area -> select all tabs -> bookmark tabs -> then from there you can create folder 'rh 17 August' Next time you open a browser, just right click on that folder and open all. When done, just delete the folder. Once you learn this, it's a one or two second process so it's very efficient in my view.

You might argue that this option could become a one-click thing (ie a right-click menu item called 'save all tabs as bookmarks' and use an automated name) but that brings a whole new range of problems (cluttered interface for users that don't want this, and therefore decrease in overall UI efficiency)

> i'm not alone right? No, many people like me relies on bookmarks. I share the frustration others shared around the bookmarks toolbar being hidden by default. However, by using standard behaviour I manage to make bookmarks work in a pretty efficient way.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#46
Aside from everyone pointing out most browsers do everything you ask, there is a new (-ish?) feature in Chrome history called Journeys. It's an interesting approach to solve the 'reasearch rabbit hole' and has been useful for me but would be better if it was exposed in the UI in a better way.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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post #28

I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right…

I actually had to do this yesterday for a small fuzzy search through bookmarks thing I’m building for myself.

It was something like:

    SELECT url FROM moz_places WHERE id IN (SELECT fk FROM moz_bookmarks)
You can find more info on that database here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Places/Places_SQL_queries_best_prac...

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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post #28

I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right…

tab stash is a pretty decent extension for quickly saving tabs and then restoring them later with one click

https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash

and unlike some other tab management extensions, it uses native bookmarks to store things which means you can still access the stashed tabs if you sync them to firefox mobile

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#50

This is actually a big reason why I use Firefox despite the weaker security: the bookmark ergonomics are just that much better. When I'm browsing, I don't want links in the top bar to tempt me to context switch, so my bookmark bar is off and my left hand rests next to my keyboard. If I want to navigate to a site, I either type in the URL if I remember, or hit Ctrl+B to pull up my bookmarks. I put the bar on the right…

What do you mean by "despite the weaker security"? Did I miss something about a security hole?
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