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Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by Bayart »

arcturus17 wrote: post #31
dejawu wrote: post #20

It's insane. I once found a restaurant that had ghost kitchen'd itself EIGHTEEN times: https://i.imgur.com/7jwBlFG.png Some of the name variations are pretty funny though.

Where I live (Spain), delivery restaurants have also become a total clusterfuck. There are thousands of options which are barely undistinguishable from one another - like those cheap Chinese brands that flood many product categories on Amazon. You'll occasionally find a name that stands out, like the ones you've posted, along the lines of "Thunderfuck Porn Burgers". But they don't entice me to order, since whatever t…

I haven't seen that (yet) in France. All the referenced restaurants are real places. This being said my city simply has too many places with a lot of them outright bad. Almost all the good restaurants are on location only and don't deliver. I find myself using TheFork a lot more than Über Eats nowadays.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by soco »

Arisaka1 wrote: post #36
MrRiddle wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then they should just give up takeout?

I have Celiac. If I buy something from the super market tagged as "gluten free" I shouldn't have to gamble thinking that whoever's in charge of the packaging though about selling this to fad-chasers. So I decided to instead purchase gluten free products that are actually certified gluten free. That way if I actually get my Celiac acting up I'll have a case to make. But the idea that one should give up purchasing stuf…

I cannot understand how blatantly lying to your customers can be made acceptable if it has fine print. "Gluten free* pizza! (terms and conditions may apply)" is just that: a lie for which there should be some legal/regulatory consequences.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by dang »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #23
stephenboyd wrote: post #15

The worst ghost kitchen I've seen is for an exclusively gluten-free pizza place in Seattle. That's an appealing prospect if you have a serious celiac case and you can't eat food that's made in a typical pizza place where flour gets everywhere in the process. I looked up the address and it's actually a typical pasta and pizza Italian place with gluten in most items.

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Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by arcturus17 »

Bayart wrote: post #41
arcturus17 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I live (Spain), delivery restaurants have also become a total clusterfuck. There are thousands of options which are barely undistinguishable from one another - like those cheap Chinese brands that flood many product categories on Amazon. You'll occasionally find a name that stands out, like the ones you've posted, along the lines of "Thunderfuck Porn Burgers". But they don't entice me to order, since whatever t…

I haven't seen that (yet) in France. All the referenced restaurants are real places. This being said my city simply has too many places with a lot of them outright bad. Almost all the good restaurants are on location only and don't deliver. I find myself using TheFork a lot more than Über Eats nowadays.

I was talking about Madrid, which is by far the largest city. I'm in Bilbao right now which is fairly large (metropolitan area or "Gran Bilbao" has 850k pop.) and the virtual kitchen fever hasn't taken off yet either.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by CPLX »

dejawu wrote: post #20

It's insane. I once found a restaurant that had ghost kitchen'd itself EIGHTEEN times: https://i.imgur.com/7jwBlFG.png Some of the name variations are pretty funny though.

Wait.

These are the same fake names that the deli a block from me in Brooklyn NYC uses. Literally exactly the same.

That’s sort of fascinating. I’m realizing it just be some kind of software or vendor they’re all using to set up this ghost kitchen explosion.

I wonder if there’s a clever vendor out there shipping them some kind of device to keep track of all this stuff, complete with menus and an instruction guide or something.

Or, of course, the platforms themselves.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by tinus_hn »

modeless wrote: post #37

While we're piling on Doordash, how have they managed to produce a website that takes more than a second to respond to every single button press? Like even something as simple as clicking on the hamburger menu icon takes over a second to register. It's infuriating.

Sounds like it’s trying to track all your mouse movements and clicks and either it’s broken or you’ve halfway blocked it.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

#48

Post by dejawu »

CPLX wrote: post #46
dejawu wrote: post #20

It's insane. I once found a restaurant that had ghost kitchen'd itself EIGHTEEN times: https://i.imgur.com/7jwBlFG.png Some of the name variations are pretty funny though.

Wait. These are the same fake names that the deli a block from me in Brooklyn NYC uses. Literally exactly the same. That’s sort of fascinating. I’m realizing it just be some kind of software or vendor they’re all using to set up this ghost kitchen explosion. I wonder if there’s a clever vendor out there shipping them some kind of device to keep track of all this stuff, complete with menus and an instruction guide or…

That's really interesting... Do the actual real-life restaurants appear related?

I just realized this screenshot is actually from GrubHub which I don't use anymore, so I'm not able to go back and check for further details.

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by CPLX »

dejawu wrote: post #48
CPLX wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait. These are the same fake names that the deli a block from me in Brooklyn NYC uses. Literally exactly the same. That’s sort of fascinating. I’m realizing it just be some kind of software or vendor they’re all using to set up this ghost kitchen explosion. I wonder if there’s a clever vendor out there shipping them some kind of device to keep track of all this stuff, complete with menus and an instruction guide or…

That's really interesting... Do the actual real-life restaurants appear related? I just realized this screenshot is actually from GrubHub which I don't use anymore, so I'm not able to go back and check for further details.

My examples are from GrubHub too.

Behold: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Agrubhub.com+%22108+ja...

Re: Ask HN: What's up with these DoorDash dark patterns?

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Post by gsk22 »

dejawu wrote: post #20

It's insane. I once found a restaurant that had ghost kitchen'd itself EIGHTEEN times: https://i.imgur.com/7jwBlFG.png Some of the name variations are pretty funny though.

Weird, I've seen some of those exact names on delivery apps in Minneapolis.

Ghost kitchen chain?

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