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Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

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Because 8GB still works fine and will continue to work fine for at least the next 6-7 years. Cheap Windows laptops and Chromebooks still come with 4GB ram. I'm currently typing this on a 2008 MacBook Pro with a 2.5GHZ Core 2 Duo and 6GB RAM. It's playing a 1080P video on a second monitor and has 5 browser tabs open in two browsers. Currently using 4.7GB RAM and 60% CPU.

It may work ‘fine’ but really, a system with more memory works better. 5 browser windows/tabs and one video is not really a demanding workload and that’s already using over half of the machines resources.

Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

#42

Because 8GB still works fine and will continue to work fine for at least the next 6-7 years. Cheap Windows laptops and Chromebooks still come with 4GB ram. I'm currently typing this on a 2008 MacBook Pro with a 2.5GHZ Core 2 Duo and 6GB RAM. It's playing a 1080P video on a second monitor and has 5 browser tabs open in two browsers. Currently using 4.7GB RAM and 60% CPU.

It may work ‘fine’ but really, a system with more memory works better. 5 browser windows/tabs and one video is not really a demanding workload and that’s already using over half of the machines resources.

No it is not a demanding workload. If you have a demanding workload I absolutely recommend purchasing more than 8GB of RAM, And Apple will gladly sell you a machine with more RAM if you need it. But for the vast majority of people 8GB is plenty, so that is what they offer on their base machines.

Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

#43
post #21

I am going to give out different statement than the consensus being formed in this thread. It is a criminal act by any manufacturer to sell a computer with 8G of memory specially when it is not upgradeable.

> It is a criminal act by any manufacturer to sell a computer with 8G of memory specially when it is not upgradeable.

So raspberry pis should be illegal? What about ESP 8266?

Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

#44
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not asking you indeed. My point is that 8 GB RAM is not a professional machine and is incorrectly labeled. You seem to be restating this point. MBP is supposed to be professional, but I can't imagine using a 8 GB machine. Even on 16 GB M1 RAM is the bottleneck and I get OOM errors.

Oh yeah, like my original stance was that basically the 8GB MBP exists to have a cheaper entry price, and to have something that's a no brainer upgrade to make users actually looking for a professional machine buy the next one up.

The op was "why does MBA have the same as MBP", your response was "consumer does not need more RAM than MBA has". My point is that MBP is not positioned for consumer, because if it is, then whom is MBA positioned for. What's your objection I still can't grasp.

Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

#45
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying MBP is a machine for your average consumer? Whom is MBA for, then?

MBA is for people running Facebook Messenger and Instagram to use in coffeeshops, obviously :)

So average consumers.

Re: Ask HN: Why does my '15 MacBook Air have the same RAM (8gb) as a '22 McBook Pro?

#46
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you posting these links to suggest that the commenter is incorrect about prices remaining the same? If so, I'm not sure comparing prices of DDR4 are the same thing, since the commenter was talking about LPDDR4.

* 64GB of 2666MHz DDR4 in 2019: $280 * 64GB of 3200Mhz DDR4 in 2022: $240 memory has been getting faster and cheaper, and it really wasn't that expensive to begin with.

I said cost not price.

You manage to pick the highest margin product with the biggest variation of pricing inside a commodity market to compare using two data point within a short period.

https://thememoryguy.com/dram-prices-hit-historic-low/

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