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Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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post #8

I'm not allowed to. I've made the arguments for, and HR controls the actual job listings, and they won't put salary in the JDs. I've been trying for two years to make this happen. Reasons I've heard -- and again, this is not me, this is what I'm told -- include * we can't as a matter of company policy, which can't be changed * we offer great benefits (true, they're the best I've ever had) and so it's not fair to us t…

It could be as simple as a preference of the CEO/CFO, maybe a bad experience of someone at the top.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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post #8

I'm not allowed to. I've made the arguments for, and HR controls the actual job listings, and they won't put salary in the JDs. I've been trying for two years to make this happen. Reasons I've heard -- and again, this is not me, this is what I'm told -- include * we can't as a matter of company policy, which can't be changed * we offer great benefits (true, they're the best I've ever had) and so it's not fair to us t…

> it's not fair to us to post salaries, because it'll look low and we'll lose candidates * Is that a valid argument ? I mean if it is low even after going through the hiring process people will end up rejecting the offer. Its just that both candidate and company would have sunk quite a lot of time in interview process.

some places are bottom feeders, they put in time trawling for people who don't know their worth

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#44
Beyond a certain level, salary doesn't matter. There's a base salary and there's upside, so if you create something profitable, you'll get paid significantly more. In finance, bonuses are many multiples of your salary, dependent on your performance. It's similar in tech, where the RSUs are how you make your money.

You can't post bonuses/equity, since it really depends on your performance.

Your post assumes that you're doing some task, but with most of the jobs people on this site go for, you're paid to be creative and commercial and not to just perform some job.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if I reject the offer because its too low, doesn't it simply waste their time and resources as well.

It might, but I don't think that's necessarily your problem. That's what they get for not being up front.

No but they could prevent waisting their own time by beeing upfront.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#46
post #9

We did an a b test on our internal job board and it was a disaster. Posting salaries is kind of ok for applicants but does nothing for hiring folks.

could you explain what was the disaster ? You had huge uproar from existing employees once they found out that company is willing to pay more to newer employees OR not enough candidates applied for the job posting with salary information ?

Highly qualified individuals were not applying to jobs that they were perfect for.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#48
post #11

Companies are often times weasels. They will try to figure out your current salary and offer some small increase. In my experience you need to have leverage before negotiating, so I remain “negotiable” and never tell my current salary until an offer is on the table. Once they want you comp can be more easily negotiated.

Yes but if `negotiations` fail in the end because the max they can offer is lower than your acceptable minimum, both company and you end up wasting valuable time because now both of you need to do entire loop again.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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post #44

Beyond a certain level, salary doesn't matter. There's a base salary and there's upside, so if you create something profitable, you'll get paid significantly more. In finance, bonuses are many multiples of your salary, dependent on your performance. It's similar in tech, where the RSUs are how you make your money. You can't post bonuses/equity, since it really depends on your performance. Your post assumes that you'r…

In finance, sales and VP+ posts yes but I think for majority of us ICs and lower Ms bonuses are usually sub 20% of the total comp (even at the FAANGs)

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if I reject the offer because its too low, doesn't it simply waste their time and resources as well.

It might, but I don't think that's necessarily your problem. That's what they get for not being up front.

I mean it is a lose-lose situation. We both end up wasting valuable time.
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