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Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

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post #19

Stay with the "Mac way". It's far better than Windows. Take disk imaging, for example. As far as I'm aware you need special software to image a Windows system but with Mac OS X it's a feature. OS X is also BSD Unix so you have far superior cli.

I'll stick to Arch Linux way for now, thanks.

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

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I'm on my 3rd(!) company supplied macbook in almost 2 years. Macbook Pro, 16'', 32GB. First Macbook: screen broke in the middle. Second Macbook: screen broke and MacOS is complaining that there's something wrong with the SSD. Third macbook I just received and can't tell what will break. But break it will.

I only move them around the house, never on the road. When I move them, I place them in a Thule Gauntlet. I really take care of these babies as I find it wasteful not to.

So that is my anecdata on the 'stability' and 'care' of Apple.

My experience differs from yours. Both are wrong and true. You could just be unlucky, and so can I. No need to completely write off Dell or Lenovo over that though.

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a MUCH superior cli these days because of WSL.

its certainly superior to previous windows but its ultimately a hosted vm in windows. OSX is a native unix. Yes there are limitations such as needing a vm to run docker but the core system is posix and the filesystems are all laid out in in teh unix way. on of this damn C/D drive nonsense.

I like named volumes to be honest. They just should be able to have more than one letter, like Netware and Amiga had.

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

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My recently (ish) purchased System76 box "just worked" right out of the gate. More so than even I expected, as I had thought I would probably replace their PopOS distro with something else. But I gave it a whirl, found that it works just fine, and stuck with it.

I'm considering System76 as well. Mind sharing your experience with "bloatness"?

I switched from Ubuntu to Arch some years ago because it was getting too bloated for my taste.

How is PopOS on this regard?

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#45
I have few laptops by Asus and HP. All work like a charm and were cheap for what they offer. The oldest ASUS still in use after some 10 years. Runs some specialized control applications. Should I create a post and title it "ASUS laptops seems to be the only viable option these days"

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a MUCH superior cli these days because of WSL.

its certainly superior to previous windows but its ultimately a hosted vm in windows. OSX is a native unix. Yes there are limitations such as needing a vm to run docker but the core system is posix and the filesystems are all laid out in in teh unix way. on of this damn C/D drive nonsense.

It feels a lot more like a dual os system than just running a vm inside of windows. The integration between the two is pretty seamless and powerful. e.g. this is in my wsl .bashrc file, it writes to my windows clipboard by running the powershell.exe windows executeable:

  function cb () {
     powershell.exe -command "\$input | set-clipboard"
  }

Mac is unix sure, but they have diverged from the popular main stream linux distributions and you still need to learn various gotchas and different ways of doing things. At least for me, our deployment environment is amazon linux 2 and I use amazon linux 2 for wsl. I am also an sre, so maybe that matters to me more than most and unix is good enough for most.

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#47

I don't get it — there is a market for a high quality robust laptop — and yet it does not exist. Why our choice is an ancient refurbished pre-shit ThinkPad or Mac? You can't throw a rock without hitting a random developer — but they all type on self-destructing shittops… And they type emails to customer support instead of coding.

> there is a market for a high quality robust laptop — and yet it does not exist

Because that market segment is not large enough to easily justify RnDing your own laptop platform, nailing down the finer details, upscale that into mass production and then fight existing competition, all while keeping the price competitive.

And the rest of the world will do fine with the rest of the laptops. Or build desktops for specific tasks :shrug:

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#48
I went from a 2013 Macbook Pro (died and haven't had time to fix it) to an HP elite x2 g4 Tablet running Linux and it's mostly what I wanted - https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/comments/s6k1qr... . It's felt more repairable than a surface pro, and haven't really encountered any linux issues.

I say this while having pretty meh experiences with earlier generation (~2019 and earlier) HP elite models used for work.

Re: Ask HN: MacBooks seems to be the only viable option these days

#49
post #3

I've bought hundreds of Dell desktops, laptops, servers, etc., over the last 15 years. Rarely have I had any issues.

I've had great experience with Dell as well.

But I'm reconsidering them from now on. One of my current laptops have a weird issue and I tried to purchase extended warranty for them to fix it. Only to discover they now only service machines up to 3-years old.

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