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Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by walrus01 »

hbn wrote: post #38
walrus01 wrote: post #23

> I want to eventually move away, especially gmail register your own domain name, either for personal or professional purposes take some basic security precautions on your domain registrar account, use a long complex password that's not used for any other service anywhere else on the internet, and set up some form of 2FA for logins as well. control your own authoritative DNS zonefile and choose where to set your MX r…

> register your own domain name, either for personal or professional purposes I have a question about domains, for whoever might be able to answer. I've had my own domain for a few years, a .se domain (only because it's .se and my middle name ends in that, so I was able to make the whole thing read like my name but with a dot in it) This is the Swedish TLD, which doesn't require you be a citizen to register. Is there…

If you're greatly concerned about that, choose a .net/.com/.org or similar, or a TLD belonging to your actual country of citizenship/residence.

Yes it's theoretically possible the Swedish authorities who control .se could do something else policy wise in the future.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by salzig »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #25

I'm still looking for an alternative e-mail provider that is more privacy-conscious than Google, still works with ordinary IMAP and is based in the EU so I get to actually benefit from EU data protection. Haven't found one that ticks all boxes yet, but going with a US company doesn't appear to change much as I'm not a US citizen and hence fair game once my data is on US servers and I guess it inevitably will end up t…

What about https://mailbox.org/? I

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by RicoElectrico »

keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

An alernative to Magic Earth would be Organic Maps. https://organicmaps.app/

Though it's not as focused on driving, it seems. But may be good enough.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by awiesenhofer »

Not to hijack the thread but in a similar vain: is anyone using an esolutions/murena degoogled phone as a daily driver? Thinking of getting their Fairphone version with /e/os but am unsure how it will handle common tasks (banking apps, navigation, camera, ...)?

ie. https://esolutions.shop/shop/murena-fairphone-4-fr/

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by igordebatur »

I thought I'll be the last to move from Google because I'm alright with them using all my private data. But now I'm line to find an alternative: they've just locked our payment profile for an app with 25k+ positive ratings and their support does literally nothing to help us. I've just started a thread, maybe someone has the same experience and can share their experience https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30861147

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by SamWhited »

I've been a big fan of Fastmail for email and calendars. I've also thought about joining May First Co-op (https://mayfirst.coop/) as they've been around for a bit and offer a suite of services which includes email, chat, nextcloud for documents and files, etc.

I've also had good results with DDG for most things search. I know people say the results are worse, and on some occasions they are, but mostly it's perfectly serviceable in my experience.

For video conferencing I've been using a mix of Jitsi Meet and meet.coop (a big blue button instance that I have access to through my membership in social.coop, which is good for social media).

For chat (including phone calls and SMS through https://jmp.chat) I use https://conversations.im, the client costs money but the service just went free unless you want to use a custom domain.

My phone is running Lineage OS using F-Droid for an app store. I don't like F-Droid very much for reasons that don't matter here (that might have been fixed since the last time I looked into it for all I know), but it is a perfectly good alternative so I recommend it in the absence of anything better.

For maps I've been using Organic (https://organicmaps.app/). It uses Open Street map data so at first a lot of places I wanted to navigate to weren't there, but I added all the places I go regularly to the map and now it works pretty well.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by hbn »

walrus01 wrote: post #41
hbn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> register your own domain name, either for personal or professional purposes I have a question about domains, for whoever might be able to answer. I've had my own domain for a few years, a .se domain (only because it's .se and my middle name ends in that, so I was able to make the whole thing read like my name but with a dot in it) This is the Swedish TLD, which doesn't require you be a citizen to register. Is there…

If you're greatly concerned about that, choose a .net/.com/.org or similar, or a TLD belonging to your actual country of citizenship/residence. Yes it's theoretically possible the Swedish authorities who control .se could do something else policy wise in the future.

Good to know. I suppose my next question is: is there any known instances of this happening in the past?

I suppose regardless, if it ever actually happened, it's not like you wake up one day and lose your domain. There would probably be time to buy a new domain and point all your accounts there before your next renewal.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by destitude »

keraf wrote: post #36

I moved away from Google a few years ago. I'm using the following alternatives: - Email: ProtonMail - Contacts, Calendar, Online storage: NextCloud hosted by Hetzner ( https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share ) - Phone: LineageOS (Android) -- App stores: F-Droid for most apps and Aurora store for the occasional non F-Droid apps (like the ProtonMail client) -- Maps: MagicEarth (not open source but privacy friendl…

ProtonMail has abysmally small storage space if you receive attachments in mail frequently.

Re: Ask HN: How to move away from Google

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Post by SamWhited »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #25

I'm still looking for an alternative e-mail provider that is more privacy-conscious than Google, still works with ordinary IMAP and is based in the EU so I get to actually benefit from EU data protection. Haven't found one that ticks all boxes yet, but going with a US company doesn't appear to change much as I'm not a US citizen and hence fair game once my data is on US servers and I guess it inevitably will end up t…

I believe Disroot is out of the EU and offers free (donation based) email services: https://disroot.org
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