Cookie banners have nothing to do with the GDPR.
They are a requirement of the ePrivacy Directive from 2002.
Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
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Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#42These pop-ups are making it hard to enjoy the Internet, what do you suggest to do to get rid of these pop-ups? Embrace them. Learn to love them. They're a good feature . Making websites explicitly require permission to do (subjectively) negative things like tracking users is a massively positive step in the right direction towards us all having ownership and agency over of our lives as we spend time online. Sure, it…
>Making websites explicitly require permission to do (subjectively)
But that's already happening. Your browser just sends the data automatically. Putting this burden on the website just means that an actual nefarious actor will track you anyway. After all, how are you going to check that they actually don't save all that data your browser vomits at them?
If you want privacy then you have to make sure your browser doesn't send out that information in the first place. Once you've done that then GDPR is useful for plugging the holes for the non-bad actors.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "Eurgh! I had to click a button again! I'd sacrifice my privacy not to have to do that any more!" is a really bad take in my opinion. I assume you don't surf in incognito mode. The collective amount of hours wasted clicking those popups must be enormous.
The collective amount of hours wasted clicking those popups must be enormous. You can't add them up and use that time though. That time is always going to be fragmented in to unusable bits. Millions of people wasting 2s each is not equivalent to thousands of hours of lost productivity. Likewise, one person wasting 2s many of times a year can't be replaced with a useful hour. The 'lost time' argument doesn't make sens…
But they're not unusable bits of time. That 2 seconds you spend would be 2 seconds sooner that you would be done with the website. If you visit 100 websites in a session then that does add up to 200 seconds wasted in that session.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#44Comply with the law, don't gather unnecessary PII and poof - no need for popups.
It's so 'simple' to do that even the EU's own website has the pop up:
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#45GDPR is a preview into what a more regulated web would look like and it’s awful. What should we do? Fight it. Demonstrate the pointlessness of the regulation now that everyone has a taste of it.
Complacency will lead to more regulation. Leading to regulators able to shut down your site for not following arcane rule 345 subsection A. You think it’s a joke, but this is how it starts.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#46We all know of SponsorBlock and its user-submitted segments for the YouTube videos, right?
Well, can't we build the similar addon and the crowd-sourced database, but one that would submit specific rule (page elements, and click order) to block everything - incl. "legitimate interest" bullshitery- except the barest of essential cookies?
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
My understanding is that you must tell people if you set cookies for any purpose, regardless of whether they are collecting personal data. Therefore, pretty much any content management solution, Wordpress site etc. will need to display a cookie consent banner.
I think you need cookie banner only if you use non-essential cookies. For example if you use cookies only for user auth, you don't need to display any notification about that.
My understanding was that you need consent before storing or accessing information on user's devices.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you need cookie banner only if you use non-essential cookies. For example if you use cookies only for user auth, you don't need to display any notification about that.
My understanding was that you need consent before storing or accessing information on user's devices.
No, Reubensson is correct. The rules for what is essential are generally fairly strict, but only non-essential needs consent.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
GDPR does not mandate those pop-ups, most of them are not compliant and only exist as a way to try pretend to comply with the law.
Is explicit consent mandated? Between the GDPR and other cookie laws, explicit consent for each specific use is required, as far as I understand. If so, pop-ups are an unavoidable consequence because, again, websites don't really want to ask you they want you to consent (obviously since they rely on this)
> for each specific use
For non-essential uses.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
How are you going to boycott the entire internet? Most websites I visit show this pop up and it’s more convenient to just click ok than to move to 5 different screens and waste another 30 seconds. This is what happens when you don’t address every aspect of side effects when making the law. People get accustomed to it just like those California cancer warning labels that are basically useless and nothing but a waste.
> Most websites I visit show this pop up and it’s more convenient to just click ok than to move to 5 different screens and waste another 30 seconds So they don't comply with the law. People working for these sites choose to make this difficult and harder than its supposed to be.
Have you considered, perhaps, the entire internet and the business community is boycotting the rules because it has many loop holes and is poorly thought out?