The special thing I’ve done is mostly being willing to sit with hard questions like “who am I” and “what do I really want out of life and a job?”, sometimes for years at a time (low-key). The answer is always the same, and will probably always the same: I am motivated by mastery and autonomy. Thus I put lots of time into finding work that is interesting and has a lot to dig into. I routinely annoy the institutions I…
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#42The other type are people who create things. If you are not of the first type I highly suggest that you find a career where you make things. Creating a software product definitely fits the bill for some people. But if you can't see what you are making because all you do is fix bugs, or work on small components, you might not get the job satisfaction you need. Seek out work that involves making things.
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#43The special thing I’ve done is mostly being willing to sit with hard questions like “who am I” and “what do I really want out of life and a job?”, sometimes for years at a time (low-key). The answer is always the same, and will probably always the same: I am motivated by mastery and autonomy. Thus I put lots of time into finding work that is interesting and has a lot to dig into. I routinely annoy the institutions I…
It’s much harder to actually understand what makes you happy, and when your mind is deceiving you: you may not fully appreciate what you have to give up to achieve a certain goal.
Would you be able to elaborate how you realized that mastery and autonomy were the things that make you happy?
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#44Could that be youre anxious because youre not getting __all__ the "special" attention you think you deserve? If yes, then trying everything in terms of career to get enough attention wont help, getting "attention fix" on hn either. Are you capable of being alone or does that makes you miserable? I dont know what it is, but its not your career. Youre telling it yourself, youve been doing everything right.
You bring a topic I have been myself concerned about but never managed to articulate. I'm usually performing quite well at my job, and easily get "special" attention and recognition which is good. At jobs, I tend to start motivated just by the work itself but at some point, after a few victories, recognitions, salary increases, or promotions I discover myself being that guy seeking attention and recognition and start…
Simply follow things along those lines. Pay attention to your vocabulary: __all__, special, good professional, ive been doing everything right, etc. Thats how you do basic psychology. Youre subconscious is talking, just listen :) hope that helps
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#45i quit being a programmer and now work as a janitor. it's amazing how much of a difference moving and not getting emails made for me. that's perhaps a bit of a drastic swing.
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#46> Every single situation had pros and cons, and none of them made me feel completely full-filled.
…I wanted to share this piece of experience that resonated with me back then.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15107818
[Maybe we all need a little less balance — NYT]
The point being: I‘ve found that simply accepting no single way living my career has been able to strike a perfect balance _all at once_ already was a key piece that let me feel more at ease.
Your way of trying out a few different things at different times seems to not be the worst strategy in that regard.
I‘d say I‘m 80% happy now with my job, but I know there will always be parts I dread. And doing something different will simply trade them for others.
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#48I simply don't work much anymore. Below 10h a week on average. I haven't set an alarm for years anymore and sleep 9h a night That made me quite happy.
How do you accomplish that? Does your manager just don't care about you? Do you work for yourself? Are you retired?
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#49Get a gym membership and go every day. If you have trouble going routinely sign up for classes or a personal trainer so you feel more obligated to go on a regular basis.
Yes! Physical fitness is super important. If you have trouble going routinely, find something more interesting, like rock climbing. Use a bicycle for personal transport if you live somewhere civilized.
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#50Working hours: absolute max 40 (although I'm taking a day off a week right now to do my own thing), very strict "no evenings or weekends" (apart from site launches and big deadlines of which there are about 3 a year), no work email on phone, long holidays (for example we take August off annually, and do it properly, no email, no phone, no client contact). I think probably I take 30-40 days holiday a year maybe? I don't actually count :-)
We've absolutely, 100% optimised for family. It started off as a semi-deliberate choice and then we moved to Cornwall (for a year, it made us happy so we stayed) and it became more and more clear that being in the now is the focus that makes us happiest. We have 2 teen kids, and we need to be in their lives for the short amount of time (18 years really does fly...) before they leave home and go do their own thing. I have friends who have risen through the ranks of their careers and now pull in anywhere from £150k-£1m++ but every single one of them leaves the house at 7, isn't back before 9 and does it 6 days a week. They employ people to look after their kids, they employ people to clean their houses, they don't know each other, the families are isolated from each other, the kids are fkd up, everyone drinks too much, everyone is intensely stressed all the time... There is absolutely no point, none whatsoever.
I could be dead tomorrow. It could be a speeding car, or a lump, or a mis-step or a stroke. So I try to maximise now. I'd rather have this time hanging out with my family than working (and I love my work - I just don't love it as much as my family!). I know that I'll probably be poor when I'm old, but to be able to eat a meal, sit and chat, go surfing with my kids and wife - I'd make that choice again a million times over.
So - finally - to answer your question. In my humble opinion (and yes, this is opinion, and yes, you have to have some luck - which I have had, at least so far - for these to work...):
1) There's no point in doing work that makes one unhappy. If you've got the choice (and most people do who are commanding north of $100k) then choose a lower salary which gives you more flexibility and life balance than a higher one that doesn't
2) Be in the now. It's all we've got. Sorry to be an old hippy, but it's true.
3) If you can, get a meditation practice going. If you can spare the time, extend this into a week long silent retreat every so often. These give (both) you time to recharge, to consider, to see life in context, to understand that there are bigger things at play than just you.
4) Be fit. It really helps.
5) Eat well. I'd go further with my opinion and say - be vegetarian - but at least minimise your meat consumption.
6) Be with the people you love. Maximise for this time. Everything will end - your life, your friends' lives, your social circumstance. Friends and family are literally the only thing that matters in the end, so make the most of them.
7) Do things that aren't anything to do with screens. Read. Listen to music. Be bored. Walk. Get a dog. Be away from that little rectangle of light for long periods of time.
8) Avoid debt if you possibly can. I'm not talking mortgages - they're pretty much inevitable - but if you can't afford a (luxury thing) then don't buy it, save for it. The people I know who are really, badly in trouble financially are the ones who see a thing and buy it on credit, then it bites them on the ass later.
Good luck out there.