Youtube Alternatives :
Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller
Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube
Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
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Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#42> Apart from network effect, and Google's Ad Monopoly This is like asking "why don't we live on the moon except that there is no atmosphere there and it's pretty far away?". Those two reasons are the main reasons Youtube is the clear winner in its field, saying "apart from that" does not make a lot of sense. If you'd want to start a competitor to take on Youtube, you either need to focus on a tiny niche not well serv…
>or porn I'm quite confident you'll find Mindgeek/Pornhub has a Youtube-esque unassailable position in that market segment. Unless you're catering to illegal content, but I think you'll find that market isn't the greatest for building a profitable business on.
my guess is pornhub has been on steep decline since most of their payment processing methods has been removed. I will admit I haven't checked back but last I checked they were essentially crypto only.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#43Does Twitch count? A lot of chess streamers I used to follow on YouTube moved to Twitch. Sometimes they replicate their content back to YouTube, but not always.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#44bilibili in China
Niconico in Japan
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#45It does have competitors. IMO, Odysee/LBRY is the most viable one but only time will tell because all the competitors lack some things and have been slow to develop. The competitors have a hard time gaining traction because in the way many of us would expect because we live in a different world from when YouTube first became a thing. YouTube in 2005 was way different. You could find just about anything on there. Pran…
The content may have matured, but has YouTube really changed?
I always thought the point was to make it easy for anyone to publish an original video? (And then to make it easy for anyone to watch the video.)
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#46They were anticompetitive using multiple illegal tricks. Their competitors like dailymotion or vimeo couldn't compete for years. Now that google is under antitrust investigation around the world. They have started operating properly and that's why you get an ad every 12 seconds. Twitch only survived because big daddy amazon came in with the same deal as google. We will now see players like rumble finally taking off.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#47YouTube is a huge technical achievement that would require billions of dollars to replicate:
1. It consumes nearly unlimited bandwidth.
2. It consumes nearly unlimited CPU for transcoding and serving media at different bitrates.
3. It consumes massive resources to police, from user moderation to appeasing content owners by building systems and databases like ContentID, etc.
4. It generates endless PR and legal headaches, which also costs a lot of money.
5. A huge amount of work has gone into getting users hooked through algorithms that seek to maximize watch time.
6. A huge amount of work has gone into building a network of advertisers who want to pay to put their ads on the platform.
7. And importantly, a huge amount of work has gone into building up an ecosystem of video producers who make their entire living off of YouTube and spend countless hours producing content for them at no cost to YouTube. Obviously YouTube isn't giving out Golden Play Button plaques out of the kindness of their heart. That's marketing.
And despite all this, Youtube almost always works perfectly for almost all users. People click on their phones and the videos just play - all around the world, even while traveling on transit, etc.
There are very few companies who have the resources to attempt to compete with that. Vimeo has obviously given up targeting the same mass market audience. Other competitors without unlimited deep pockets can't seem to make a dent.
It's a lot like asking why doesn't someone just make "a better Google." Unless you have unlimited resources and an unlimited budget, it probably isn't possible. It's smarter to make something else tangental in video that can outcompete Google instead of facing them head on. See: Twitch, TikTok, etc.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#48CEO of vimeo will cry themself to sleep after reading this post
I believe vimeo purposely isn't interested in much of the you from youtube, although these days youtube isn't either. Vimeo is looking to be a hoster for commercial content mainly.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#49It comes preinstalled on all mobile phones. If YouTube were just a website like any other video host, people wouldn't care. Do you really care about which video host a video you want to watch is on? No, more than likely you care about the video itself. But YouTube is an app , on your phone, click it and search for what you want, oh whatever you're looking for is probably on YouTube anyway. And that's another thing, Y…
No longer preinstalled on iPhones. Not for a long while now since Apple’s app was discontinued in favor of Google’s own app.
I wonder what the usage metrics for disparate video hosts look like around the time of that change, and also the change on DDG to showing other video host results and their deal with Apple. I'd be willing to bet viewership on other sites went up and YouTube went down to some degree.
Re: Ask HN: Why doesn't YouTube have a competitor?
#50Because Youtube can only make sense to run within Google. Youtube's actual service of providing free HD streaming video in exchange for showing the viewers ads is not, has never been, and cannot be profitable. Totally free, unlimited HD video streaming is just too expensive. It can only exist as part of a huge conglomerate because the only purpose Youtube can serve is to attract people into the ecosystem it's part of. No other company has an ecosystem valuable enough to justify losing that much money on Youtube.