The link below was submitted to Hacker News a few months ago. It has good tips for landing pages: "I've rewritten 300+ websites for startups from pre-seed to unicorn. Here are my top learnings" https://twitter.com/maiale/status/1419687196311752704 A follow-up twitter thread from the same author: "..there's a template I recommend to almost every startup. Here it is" https://twitter.com/maiale/status/142041377859262874…
Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
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Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#42I have no tips, no hacks, no shortcuts. Honestly this is such a big topic, that I am tempted to just share v1 of a guide to landing pages I made. However before I do... So, one thing that would make a real difference to a landing page. An appreciation of the foundational blocks of a landing page, which are: 1. The contextual factors: business, market, your solution, target audience, positioning, tactic, financial. 2.…
I see what you did there ;)
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How does a landing page work if it doesn’t offer a next step? Does the front page not have links to other pages on the site? If not, then whoever built it fucked up . I don't want to be "directed". I don't want anything that resembles a hard sell. As far as I'm concerned, a website's front page should be a menu, not a "call to action". > I see a thing that looks interesting and then it’s my job to go on a hunt to f…
> Exactly, and what's wrong with that? It’s entirely opposite to the whole field of good user interface design? It seems pretty uncontroversial that the goal of a user interface ought to be making it easier for the user to do what they want to do. If I load up a site for some product, there’s basically 3 possible outcomes of reading the page: 1. I don’t want the thing 2. I might want the thing, but I need more info 3…
Good for whom? Good by what standard? The older I get the more I've come to suspect that most UI and UX designers come from the Temple Grandin school. They seem to think that users, website visitors, etc. are just human cattle and that their job is to design better cattle chutes.
I don't want a "better user interface". I want web apps that work, and I have yet to find one. Even dict.org reports errors when run through wave.webaim.org.
- If your web app doesn't work in Lynx, it doesn't work.
- If your web app doesn't work on a 56K dialup connection, it doesn't work.
- If your web app isn't WCAG 2.0 AAA compliant, it doesn't work.
> If I load up a site for some product, there’s basically 3 possible outcomes of reading the page:
No, there are four outcomes. You forgot one:
4. This website is so obnoxious that I've forgotten why I bothered accessing it in the first place.
If even one of your users asks, "Why am I doing this to myself," when visiting your website or using your web app, you've messed up.
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#44When and why did "home page" become "landing page"? (At least I think that the latter refers to what was meant by the former.)
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#45There’s a huge amount of psychology in landing page design to show credibility, proof points, address common rejections, etc. I found this udemy course helpful but I’m sure there’s other resources out there. https://www.udemy.com/share/101vOq3@44_8ioaD2oSBpElrM5_5UfPj...
do you have a landing page you built after taking this course?
https://www.apicanary.com/l/beta_program_signup/
I'm in the middle of the landing page course right now, haven't applied much of it yet.
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#46If I see a call-to-action or a subscription form I hit the back button faster than Doc Holliday could draw his Colt.
If you actually fill out the form or take whatever action is shown on the page, that's gravy for them but a savvy marketer knows it takes at least seven touches to a lead before they're ready to convert. Landing pages are very top-of-funnel.
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#47The audience cares much more about themselves than you. So talk about the audience first, then introduce yourself by connecting to their interests. Like other comments mentioned, the audience's problems/pains is a good place to start. (Then introduce yourself by showing how you provide benefit by solving that pain.)
Also prefer a casual, friendly tone (talking in 2nd person) over a formal, official tone (talking in 3rd person.) People think a formal, official tone makes them look more prestigious, but people tend to trust the casual friendly tone more. The best, strongest recommendations are from your closest friends, so use the same tone you would use talking to one of them.
As for the headline, it is probably the most important component because none of the other content matters if the headline doesn't grab their attention. The best headlines get the audience to ask themselves a burning question in their head.
The main call-to-action should be to exchange something of value for contact information. Most people will need more information before they are converted. You can't continue the conversation without contact information. Those who are really interested will find a way to sign up/buy even if the CTA for that isn't directly in front of them.
This type of writing is called direct response marketing. It has been used successfully long before the internet was a thing: mail, newspapers, radio, tv, etc... The landing page is just another medium/communication channel.
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Exactly, and what's wrong with that? It’s entirely opposite to the whole field of good user interface design? It seems pretty uncontroversial that the goal of a user interface ought to be making it easier for the user to do what they want to do. If I load up a site for some product, there’s basically 3 possible outcomes of reading the page: 1. I don’t want the thing 2. I might want the thing, but I need more info 3…
> It’s entirely opposite to the whole field of good user interface design? Good for whom? Good by what standard? The older I get the more I've come to suspect that most UI and UX designers come from the Temple Grandin school. They seem to think that users, website visitors, etc. are just human cattle and that their job is to design better cattle chutes. I don't want a "better user interface". I want web apps that wor…
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#49Just spend few day here at this curated and inspiration platforms:
1. SinteInspire
2. Land-Book
3. Lapa Ninja
4. GodlyWebsites
5. SaaSlandingPage
After that you will understand what type/structure/design/features/texts you need for your own product.
Good luck!
Re: Ask HN: Best tip for landing pages?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It’s entirely opposite to the whole field of good user interface design? Good for whom? Good by what standard? The older I get the more I've come to suspect that most UI and UX designers come from the Temple Grandin school. They seem to think that users, website visitors, etc. are just human cattle and that their job is to design better cattle chutes. I don't want a "better user interface". I want web apps that wor…
Reading this response made me think “why am I doing this to myself”.