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Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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If its anything like the prior Tier 1 program, I'd say it would be run very efficiently. (Time between applying to the approval letter == 2 or 3 weeks iirc for me.) Its certainly one of the most startup-friendly visas out there, and despite the recent football press, the UK is a world class country. - Mainly there are no earning requirements like the Tier 1 program had, so you can use your time to drive an innovative…

As someone who lives in the UK, I would like to point out the only affordable city on your list is Newcastle. The rest are in the midst of a crisis of earnings to rent/mortgage costs nightmare.

"crisis" in UK terms...London is moderately expensive in international terms but has come down significantly over the past ten years as price growth levelled off, Bristol is rising but still pretty cheap (and it is rising because so many companies are moving there), Brighton is expensive but there are lots of other commuter options, Edinburgh (the city I am most familiar with) is not expensive...it is up a lot because of AirBnb, HMO conversions, and the fairly strong economy...but it isn't expensive in absolute terms (you can rent a nice two bedroom place in the city centre for £1k/month) and it is nowhere on the map in relative terms. Buying is a bit more complicated...but, right now, renting in the UK makes more sense.

One thing to bear in mind too, places like Edinburgh and Bristol have huge gaps...you can easily find somewhere in Edinburgh that is £400/month for one person, the area won't be great, I have lived in those places and the crime is usually drug-related so it isn't actually too bad (nothing compared to London, nowhere close) but there are options.

So this is a post about people coming to the UK to do, relatively, high paid work...this is nothing like most big cities in the US, Tokyo, Switzerland, Toronto, Sydney or Melbourne...London is pretty expensive, but it has come down a lot and isn't a "crisis" imo (if you don't mind living outside London and commuting...I will admit Essex is quite terrible though). As an example, lots of people coming here from HK, and (from what I have heard) they can't believe how cheap property is here.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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Something like this, but not quite this. The going rate for a good senior developer at a decent company is on the order of 80 - 90 k (maybe more). Where by "good" i mean "Pivotal Labs alumnus", and "senior" i mean 5+ years experience, and "decent company" i mean successful FTSE100 company or funded startup, since those are most of the data points i have. That's base salary, and there will be pension contributions, be…

>>> Day rates for contractors seem to vary a lot, but 400 - 600 a day, maybe? The contracting scene is still adapting to recent tax law changes, though. Contracting has taken a massive hit with COVID and with the change in tax rate, that both happened almost at the same time. Contracting was definitely the way to make it in London. You could charge £500-1000 easily a decade ago with very little taxes. Depends on the…

The £ is trading at roughly the level where it was pre-Brexit.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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If its anything like the prior Tier 1 program, I'd say it would be run very efficiently. (Time between applying to the approval letter == 2 or 3 weeks iirc for me.) Its certainly one of the most startup-friendly visas out there, and despite the recent football press, the UK is a world class country. - Mainly there are no earning requirements like the Tier 1 program had, so you can use your time to drive an innovative…

As someone who lives in the UK; I wish our country and our businesses would train and educate our own residents better.

Also I wish our Government ever considered reciprocity for the people here; since the only places we can easily go now are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Having said that we do need talent; best of luck to applicants.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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I don't understand as well..why are compensations so low in London compared to other places? I mean even if you consider cost of living..not good at all

The exchange rate. London was relatively competitive when the exchange rate was above $1.5 for a pound. Note that it was approaching $2 for most of the 2000s until the financial crisis. You could make bank easily in London as a contractor (very low taxes), maybe more than in the Silicon Valley. Then over the last decade the exchange rate plumetted and the cost of rent/home doubled, while salaries and daily rates didn…

Other than Netflix (that I know of) all the other FAANGs have big offices in London. Between them and the financial sector, there’s a fair number of very well paid tech jobs in London.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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Specailly because public transport is amazing, living outside city is doable, while drawing comparable salary.

Public transport is vastly more effective than anywhere else in the UK. But it's still pretty grim, hugely overcrowded at peak times, very unpleasant in warm weather, and that was before there was a deadly virus in the air.

It depends what you mean by effective.

The requirements for public transport are far larger, and the region does get ludicrously lavished with funds for public transport (the recent expansions actually cost more than supplying the whole country with fibre...obv, the govt took the choice to allow telecoms companies to jack up prices 5%+RPI every year rather than cut back on projects that might lead to lower house prices for those in govt) but the train service in the South-East is comically bad relative to the rest of the UK along almost every metric (again, part of this is the load but...not all of it).

So outside London, you can just buy a cheap car, that is an option outside London (only Birmingham and Edinburgh are really undrivable). And if you are in any large city outside London, then the public transport is usually pretty good. Glasgow has an underground system, Newcastle does, Manchester has quite a big tram network iirc, rail is usually far better outside London, buses are usually pretty good (although not everywhere). The only issue that I can see people on here running into is the fact that there is a lot of housebuilding, and infrastructure in some of these new areas is poor...and, although cars are cheap, some cities are just shutting down all car travel from outside (Edinburgh is one, although it is sometimes difficult to distinguish what is deliberate and what is just incompetence).

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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>>> Day rates for contractors seem to vary a lot, but 400 - 600 a day, maybe? The contracting scene is still adapting to recent tax law changes, though. Contracting has taken a massive hit with COVID and with the change in tax rate, that both happened almost at the same time. Contracting was definitely the way to make it in London. You could charge £500-1000 easily a decade ago with very little taxes. Depends on the…

L6 at FAANG, never went to college and numerous other engineers at my level and across the company haven’t either. Also never spent a penny on health care in the US. Fully covered with Kaiser and company plan I am in 30’s, so maybe due to few issues, but health coverage is good. Also, worked in London and TC of £500k+ was possible for an L6 after 4 years of refreshers and performance multiplier. Knew a few peers on p…

At most US companies, certainly one of any size, you'll pay something for healthcare in terms of contributions to your insurance plan and deductible/co-pays. But the amounts are capped. The $60K may have been the "list price" pre-insurance for a hospital stay.

And while the list price of private schools may get into the quoted range, 1.) Relatively few people pay the list price and 2.) There are (often good) state schools which, while not free, are a lot cheaper especially for in-state residents.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

#47
post #14

If its anything like the prior Tier 1 program, I'd say it would be run very efficiently. (Time between applying to the approval letter == 2 or 3 weeks iirc for me.) Its certainly one of the most startup-friendly visas out there, and despite the recent football press, the UK is a world class country. - Mainly there are no earning requirements like the Tier 1 program had, so you can use your time to drive an innovative…

As someone who lives in the UK, I would like to point out the only affordable city on your list is Newcastle. The rest are in the midst of a crisis of earnings to rent/mortgage costs nightmare.

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Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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>>> Day rates for contractors seem to vary a lot, but 400 - 600 a day, maybe? The contracting scene is still adapting to recent tax law changes, though. Contracting has taken a massive hit with COVID and with the change in tax rate, that both happened almost at the same time. Contracting was definitely the way to make it in London. You could charge £500-1000 easily a decade ago with very little taxes. Depends on the…

L6 at FAANG, never went to college and numerous other engineers at my level and across the company haven’t either. Also never spent a penny on health care in the US. Fully covered with Kaiser and company plan I am in 30’s, so maybe due to few issues, but health coverage is good. Also, worked in London and TC of £500k+ was possible for an L6 after 4 years of refreshers and performance multiplier. Knew a few peers on p…

> maybe this is a small select group

Obviously anyone at FAANG is going to be at the absolute top of their field internationally so yeah select group.

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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post #44

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The exchange rate. London was relatively competitive when the exchange rate was above $1.5 for a pound. Note that it was approaching $2 for most of the 2000s until the financial crisis. You could make bank easily in London as a contractor (very low taxes), maybe more than in the Silicon Valley. Then over the last decade the exchange rate plumetted and the cost of rent/home doubled, while salaries and daily rates didn…

Other than Netflix (that I know of) all the other FAANGs have big offices in London. Between them and the financial sector, there’s a fair number of very well paid tech jobs in London.

Netflix is in London too and expanding

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-07/netflix-t...

Re: Ask HN: Did anybody apply for UK Global Talent visa? How did it go?

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L6 at FAANG, never went to college and numerous other engineers at my level and across the company haven’t either. Also never spent a penny on health care in the US. Fully covered with Kaiser and company plan I am in 30’s, so maybe due to few issues, but health coverage is good. Also, worked in London and TC of £500k+ was possible for an L6 after 4 years of refreshers and performance multiplier. Knew a few peers on p…

> maybe this is a small select group Obviously anyone at FAANG is going to be at the absolute top of their field internationally so yeah select group.

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