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Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by evergreener »

dominotw wrote: post #25
evergreener wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a 2019 Insight alum, I can't say more good things about the program. As someone who has now been on the other side of hiring, I can say that the fellows from the program really differentiate it from every other 'bootcamp' (I wouldn't call Insight a bootcamp as there are no real tests/homework/etc, but of course lots of expectations set by the program directors). Unfortunately, Insight kind of imploded like most ot…

> I can't say more good things about the program. what were some of the top benefits for you in your career from attending this program?

I would say i) having a relatable project which I came up with/collected data for/built out/productionized, so I could talk about a real data science project during interviews that didn't require a ton of background ii) having a cohort of very motivated people to learning with/from iii) interview prep with experts, both technical and not.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by whymauri »

pedrosorio wrote: post #16
counters wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can second this. Exact same policy for our data science program's recruitment pipeline; a PhD is a hard requirement and Insight was the only program we noted when reviewing applications. Still, it would be a toss-up between the PhD/Insight candidate versus someone 6 years their junior with 2-3 years of "real world" data science under their belt in the private sector.

> Exact same policy for our data science programs recruitment pipeline; a PhD is a hard requirement > Still, it would be a toss-up between the PhD/Insight candidate versus someone 6 years their junior with 2-3 years of "real world" data science under their belt in the private sector. Aren't these contradicting each other? It sounds like you don't even consider the latter candidates. Or do you mean from your prior exp…

Probably meant that a PhD is a hard requirement for new grads.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by RGamma »

weego wrote: post #20
fantod wrote: post #6

Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…

If you have to have a PhD this isn't a bootcamp, it's just a pay for play networking funnel. It's literally the thinnest wedge you can fit a business in in this space. Convince people they won't find a job without you and then charge then for the privilege of being a part of it. And charge companies a finders fee. A PhD could walk into a job without this 7 week whatever. Vulgar and predatory.

Reading some of that site I get the impression that corporate delusions of grandeur must be reaching epic levels. 5 years (under)graduate and 3-5 years PhD and apparently you're still not good enough.. what a farce.

Sure I'll pay 20k to participate in so employers more leniently bestow upon me their blessing of . Just waiting for the day even a PhD is made to be (!) considered worthless on its own.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by lithos »

jeffwass wrote: post #26
fantod wrote: post #6

Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…

Wow, $24k for the program?

It’s a filter that says “After a PhD, I still have 24k to toss at this”.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by mdlm »

fantod wrote: post #6

Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…

Thank you, fantod.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by mdlm »

beforeolives wrote: post #34

Given that you have a PhD, I don't think the bootcamp will be a differentiator. It might even be a red flag for some employers. Unless you really don't feel ready and want to get up to speed with specific tools and get some interview prep - in that case the bootcamp might help but it won't be what gets you the interview. You can probably do much better than you think.

Thank you, beforeolives.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by mdlm »

throwitawaybaby wrote: post #17

I hire Data Scientists. I get A LOT of applications. The name of the bootcamp doesn't matter. If you haven't worked as a Data Scientist before, have a portfolio of code I can look at. If you have, I care about how relevant your experience is to my problems, not about where you learned pandas.

Thank you, throwitawaybaby.

Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?

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Post by mdlm »

dwrodri wrote: post #5

Based on your background and some word of mouth, I'd recommend I'd recommend the Insight Data Science Fellowship. It's important to filter out bootcamps targeting no background whatsoever, so at the very least this should be a solid starting point: https://insightfellows.com/data-science

Thank you, dwrodri.
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