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Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#41
you mentioned receiving the advice "go to a doctor / shrink / and talk stuff out." but did not mention pursuing it. this is good advice and as a college student you have several people you can talk to about this:

- college-health therapist, social worker, or doctor - family doctor - recommended or yellow page'd therapist, social worker, or doctor

These folks will be able to help you assess your troubles, and initiate treatment or refer you to a provider proper treatment.

Good luck, hang in there :)

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#42
I'm simply amazed by the fact that so many here seem to have gone through a similar phase in their life. Of course I want to be of some help, too.

Maybe it's helpful to explain a little bit why so many people here advise you to see a professional therapist. Apart from your "symptoms", that sound familiar to everyone who went through a depressive phase, a good therapist can check you through to narrow down what kind of mindset lead to your current state and what's holding you back from getting better. No matter how smart somebody is or how complex he's thinking, we're all cramped inside our own little world of interpretation and assumption, which is majorly based on our past experience and current environment. Sometimes it's incredibly helpful when someone slightly lifts up our glasses to show us a glimpse of the world outside this tiny scope. To put things into a broader perspective.

For example, your current lack of motivation and concentration could have various causes. No one here, and often even people who know you very good, can tell you what's behind it. A therapist also can't do this, but he or she is able to find the cause together with you through (a lot) of interviews. Maybe it's not even required to get any medication at all – but deciding this should be done by an expert in this field.

From what you've written it sounds to me, that you don't have a valid and healthful yardstick to measure yourself against. A lot of people don't. We tend to always look to what lies in front of us and forget about what lies behind. The internet isn't helpful here either, as it appears that no matter how much effort we put into something, there is always something we don't know, always people way better than us. This might even be true, but it's not healthy to measure yourself against that. To be confident in your own abilities is very important. We need to take a break sometimes (better regularly) and discover all the new things we learned and achieved. Maybe you feel like everything just played into your hands and you didn't do much work to get where you are now. That can lead you to the assumption that you're just lucky and everyone expects you to succeed in everything easily – but you fear that you fail every minute. This feeling can develop further into a form of anxiety where you're unable to start something because you "know" that you (might) fail and so you don't even start. Maybe you're unable to deal with your fast maturity, leaving you unable to communicate properly with people below or above your mature-level.

But it also could be something totally different, which is why we all here encourage you to visit a professional.

I hope I helped you or someone in a similar situation. If you feel like it, just respond honestly to someone here. I wish you all the best and hope you become clear about your situation quickly.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#43
If you're sure it's not medical related force yourself to go out and talk to someone. Anyone. About anything. I'm a college student too, so if you want to talk, email me at yadavh@umich.edu and we can set some time to just shoot the shit. Yeah you don't know me, but maybe you've still got a little spontaneity in you.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#44
Another tactic for getting yourself out of a rut is to just try something new. The more different to your current activities the better. Something physical that involves other people is a good bet, but anything that strikes you as interesting is good. As a student you probably have access to loads of clubs/societies that do all kinds of odd activities, take advantage of this.

Also, +1 to all the comments suggesting you see a doctor/counselor.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#45
Some thoughts from personal experience:

- Stop thinking.

- Take a blank sheet of paper.

- Write 1 simple task at the top, e.g. do the laundry.

- Do not write any more tasks.

- Put the paper somewhere in your face.

- Complete said task. Force yourself to do so.

- No interruptions, get it done.

- Cross off the task.

Congratulations, you've set a goal and achieved it. Trivial, but it's progress. You are now allowed to turn the brain back on and think. Momentum is good. Breathe deep! I noticed that at extreme low points I damn near stop. Perhaps this is why exercise is recommended so much, to help you move and breathe again.

Mentally I've found two things help:

- Knowing that there is a way forward out of this mess. May require outside help and support to convince you of this.

- Simplifying and focusing on one small thing at a time. There are very few things in life that really must be done right now, some will have to wait and until there is space there's no point stressing about them.

If you have understanding friends or family, TALK.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#46
I've been feeling the same way myself the past couple of days. Not sure if it's due to the weather and all the rain recently. But I've been feeling burnt out myself. I don't have any solutions at the moment, except I think on Friday I'm going to take a personal day off (1st time this year) and stay away from the computer and go out of the city and just hang around. Maybe the change of scenery might do me some good.

As for you - sorry no advice but maybe go somewhere you haven't gone before yet preferably outdoors. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#47
Pretty much everyone here has talked about stuff that could be wrong with you, and it is possible, but I want to offer an alternative explanation: you aren't being challenged enough. I was in school for two years and experienced a lot of the same stuff you did (I'm 21 now, I dropped out):

1) Was smart enough to glide through classes for my whole life, college not an exception

2) Started off having a lot of fun but got over the drinking and partying phase faster than my classmates, definitely felt lack of connection with my classmates

3) Thought a lot about whether or not I was actually depressed, especially because of the lack of connection w/ classmates. Tried a lot of stuff (diet, exercise, shrink etc.) Nothing quite seemed to do the trick (though the exercise helps a ton with daily stress but will not fix depression).

Although I obviously can't recommend it to everyone, I dropped out and started working. Now I had been freelancing and doing internships since I was about 15 so I had a solid shot at an entry level position at a startup. I can't tell you how much happier it made me.

You may not be able to just drop out, but I bet if you find an internship or something that involves you in the "real world" in a way that's somewhat meaningful to you (ie: not getting coffee) you'll get a lot more satisfaction out of life.

Remember you're young, you're not exactly supposed to have it all figured out yet. Even old people don't have life figured out yet, no one ever does. You also sound pretty introverted, and self reflective. This is a really great trait, but it can be crippling if you don't know how to manage it. You'll learn to know yourself and catch yourself repeating patterns.

It doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with you to me, but again I'm just a dog on the internet. My contact info is in my profile, feel free to email me if you'd like to chat sometime.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#48
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You definitely sound depressed. I like to think of happiness as something I'm either taking in or using up (like food). Starving people can't immediately eat large meals. I would think of your condition in the same way, except you're starving for energy/life/happiness. You can build it up though. Find a little bit at a time until you can use that to find more. Find something (anything) that holds your interest. So yo…

Upvoted, but not all depression has a cause. That is, some depression is situational: your situation sucks, so you become depressed. Other depression has no external cause. That is clinical depression, and in that case, I think people should seek professional help. To the anonymous poster, most colleges have counseling centers that you have free access to. Make an appointment, please.

Yeah I was definitely not referring to any clinical definition. Anonymous seemed to describe it in an informal way so that's how I responded.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#49
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A couple of things: 1. I was in a similar state, and found out I had hyperthyroidism. Thyroid now removed, I'm much better, but there are many other such conditions that can be causing things that you might not have all the tools yourself to work out, so check with a doctor or your school's nurse at the very least. 2. Caffeine screws most people I know up. It's very fun and useful, and I don't recognize myself withou…

Somewhat related to #1 is vitamin D deficiency. Don't fall in the trap of dismissing it because it's "just a vitamin" (which it actually isn't), because a severe deficiency will screw you up good. Pretty much everyone is deficient, but the severity varies. Geeks who spend most of their time indoors, staying late up at night working on stuff are more at risk. Don't assume that drinking a lot of fortified milk/whatever or living in a sunny climate makes you immune, because it doesn't.

At first a deficiency will just make you feel "off", but if left untreated it will make you feel as if you're slowly dying (not exaggerating) with muscle/bone/joint pain, fever, blurry vision, insomnia and brain fog. Depression and anxiety are secondary symptoms (how can you not become depressed with all this?), but still just symptoms, not a cause (in this case).

It's a simple test that could save you (anyone) a lot of grief, because you really do not want to let it go that far, and recovery takes a looooong time (months). You may have to insist (and do insist) on getting it checked, because most doctors won't by default. Most doctors also don't know how to interpret test results properly. Also worth considering is taking a B-complex vitamin. But first and foremost, talk to a doctor about it.

Re: Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help

#50
> I have been holed up by my self pretty much, and well I don't seem to understand what is wrong with me / what i need to do to fix this ? is this just a phase of life ?

I'm going to say something a little different than others here. There's nothing wrong with you. This is just a phase and it too will pass. Thinking that there is something wrong with you or that you need to fix something may just make things worse.

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