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Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#41

Post by brandmeyer »

pezo1919 wrote: post #36

If you think they lie or they're just not trustworthy you must play the game they started to play and lie too. Don't be a fool. Start looking for a job asap, don't go in, play out your cards. You can say the things you want. You can say you are sick, you can say you are horrified, but you must start playing the game. For naive people with good moral in general it's hard. You are not your environment. If you feel they…

> Start looking for a job asap

Sorry, but with the world economy literally crashing around you, this isn't practical advice. Everyone who was hiring is going to be delaying those decisions right now.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#42

Post by bArray »

peterburkimsher wrote: post #19

"a very credible and personally-detailed report" isn't a medical test. Don't panic, but that doesn't make you safe. Anecdotally, a lot of people have started coughing around me (in Auckland) since Friday. At work, with the homestay family, at church, on the bus - every group had at least one person with a dry cough. "No fever, so the doctors said it's OK." Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, and o…

Hi there, I'm in NZ too.

> Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD,

> and only people who have travelled recently AND show

> symptoms are allowed to be tested.

So they are assuming that they don't infect people either on the plane or when they land? This seems like dangerous thinking considering that the world is currently very aware of how contagious this is.

Also are you saying that it's $3000 out of pocket for the person infected? Or is that costed to the government? I think the US could be very heavily affected as people are not wanting to get tested in fear of associated health costs.

> I would love to see a web app where anecdata like this

> could be shared on a map (checkboxes of symptoms,

> severity, locations, number of people in groups).

100% this. Like the earthquake data that is collected from reports. Could also be a good opportunity to share good and up-to-date advice about the latest best practices.

I've not got a background in web-apps of any kind, but if you want some help to throw something together let me know.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#43

Post by TYPE-ERROR »

pezo1919 wrote: post #36

If you think they lie or they're just not trustworthy you must play the game they started to play and lie too. Don't be a fool. Start looking for a job asap, don't go in, play out your cards. You can say the things you want. You can say you are sick, you can say you are horrified, but you must start playing the game. For naive people with good moral in general it's hard. You are not your environment. If you feel they…

[This comment was useful. It's now self-censured.]

Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#44

Post by TYPE-ERROR »

brandmeyer wrote: post #41
pezo1919 wrote: post #36

If you think they lie or they're just not trustworthy you must play the game they started to play and lie too. Don't be a fool. Start looking for a job asap, don't go in, play out your cards. You can say the things you want. You can say you are sick, you can say you are horrified, but you must start playing the game. For naive people with good moral in general it's hard. You are not your environment. If you feel they…

> Start looking for a job asap Sorry, but with the world economy literally crashing around you, this isn't practical advice. Everyone who was hiring is going to be delaying those decisions right now.

It seems to me that this is a pretty good opportunity for remote companies to have a competitive advantage in the job market. The question is, how many remote jobs exist and how many can be created in a recession?

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#45

Post by peterburkimsher »

bArray wrote: post #42
peterburkimsher wrote: post #19

"a very credible and personally-detailed report" isn't a medical test. Don't panic, but that doesn't make you safe. Anecdotally, a lot of people have started coughing around me (in Auckland) since Friday. At work, with the homestay family, at church, on the bus - every group had at least one person with a dry cough. "No fever, so the doctors said it's OK." Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, and o…

Hi there, I'm in NZ too. > Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, > and only people who have travelled recently AND show > symptoms are allowed to be tested. So they are assuming that they don't infect people either on the plane or when they land? This seems like dangerous thinking considering that the world is currently very aware of how contagious this is. Also are you saying that it's $3000 out of…

Yes, please email me if you can provide a server, or help with design decisions for the UI.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#47

Post by bArray »

peterburkimsher wrote: post #45
bArray wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi there, I'm in NZ too. > Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, > and only people who have travelled recently AND show > symptoms are allowed to be tested. So they are assuming that they don't infect people either on the plane or when they land? This seems like dangerous thinking considering that the world is currently very aware of how contagious this is. Also are you saying that it's $3000 out of…

Yes, please email me if you can provide a server, or help with design decisions for the UI.

Mail sent :)

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#48

Post by TYPE-ERROR »

bArray wrote: post #42
peterburkimsher wrote: post #19

"a very credible and personally-detailed report" isn't a medical test. Don't panic, but that doesn't make you safe. Anecdotally, a lot of people have started coughing around me (in Auckland) since Friday. At work, with the homestay family, at church, on the bus - every group had at least one person with a dry cough. "No fever, so the doctors said it's OK." Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, and o…

Hi there, I'm in NZ too. > Unfortunately, tests here in New Zealand cost 3000 NZD, > and only people who have travelled recently AND show > symptoms are allowed to be tested. So they are assuming that they don't infect people either on the plane or when they land? This seems like dangerous thinking considering that the world is currently very aware of how contagious this is. Also are you saying that it's $3000 out of…

This sounds like it could make an interesting thesis. It also sounds like a nightmare for abuse. Maybe it could work if implemented by a big social network?

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#49

Post by anigbrowl »

TYPE-ERROR wrote: post #46
anigbrowl wrote: post #31

Quit and name the company. Why not?

Fear of consequences and not having f-you pocket change. Isn't it enough?

I can't direct your life but you can navigate such temporary setbacks. Many, if not most, people will understand your situation, and in life it's more valuable to work with people who understand you than with people who have lots of money but don't care.

Re: Ask HN: Help. Covid case at work; remote work is being denied. EU region.

#50

Post by TYPE-ERROR »

gorbachev wrote: post #9

Start coughing up the hierarchy. Once you cough on someone high enough I suspect the situation will solve itself. edit: Turning this approach 180 degrees, have the employees ask the people with power to change the policy what do they think the legal liability is in the case any of the employees or any of their family members dies?

The question about liability isn't that relevant here. Maybe it would be if this could be brought up to an European court.
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