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Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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I think React is "winning" the framework competition, if we're judging from number of jobs. It seems like a business decision for many people - React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier. I haven't had enough experience to say, but it seems like Java; not necessarily the best tool, but something easy to hire for. Flutter is also coming in hard on mobile. Also not something I've had enough experience t…

> React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier.

It was order-of-magnitudes easier than what existed when it was first released. IMO once CSS modules became common (around 2017 IIRC, so OP may not have known about it), that was when React won - we got fully-styled and functional web components for free.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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I am a Python / Django guy given the choice. Python may be a slow language, but I haven't seen many places where python is the cause of the bottleneck. Rewrite stuff so that the database is doing the heavy lifting, and add the appropriate indexes and you shouldn't have any problems. SPA's are a pain in the arse. Usually close to twice the amount of code to avoid page refreshes. Usually the apps are way slower than a…

I dont know if is just a impression of mine, but people are getting more realistic and less romantic about this stuff, really understanding the limits and the use-cases, letting Python do what it does best but leaving some parts of the system to be managed in a AOT-compiled platform like C. I think a lot of people got burn when they adhered to the "i want to use just this thing for everything" mantra, which is pure i…

> "i want to use just this thing for everything" mantra

Is node.js dead yet?

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a Python / Django guy given the choice. Python may be a slow language, but I haven't seen many places where python is the cause of the bottleneck. Rewrite stuff so that the database is doing the heavy lifting, and add the appropriate indexes and you shouldn't have any problems. SPA's are a pain in the arse. Usually close to twice the amount of code to avoid page refreshes. Usually the apps are way slower than a…

I disagree. I think SPA's are fantastic. Sure, they can be misused, but so can most things. I'm an intermediate level web developer. I enjoy working with ReactJS-- I like that it's a framework and way of doing things. 1. manages to accomplish everything that I need to get done 2. has a huge community & huge amount of open source reactjs components available 3. is highly customizable If one isn't going to use a modern…

> ReactJS in my experience makes development faster, easier, better organized and more enjoyable.

Cool.

What's the worst thing about React?

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

#45

A lot of noise but fundamentally it’s all the same.

Different perspectives; being in the industry for 25+ years, I didn't think being away 3 years wasn't long enough for much other than names and fads to have changed.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

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post #35
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a Python / Django guy given the choice. Python may be a slow language, but I haven't seen many places where python is the cause of the bottleneck. Rewrite stuff so that the database is doing the heavy lifting, and add the appropriate indexes and you shouldn't have any problems. SPA's are a pain in the arse. Usually close to twice the amount of code to avoid page refreshes. Usually the apps are way slower than a…

I disagree. I think SPA's are fantastic. Sure, they can be misused, but so can most things. I'm an intermediate level web developer. I enjoy working with ReactJS-- I like that it's a framework and way of doing things. 1. manages to accomplish everything that I need to get done 2. has a huge community & huge amount of open source reactjs components available 3. is highly customizable If one isn't going to use a modern…

What about the server-side of things? If you only have to the UI sure, but if you have to write the whole thing, rails/django is going to be way less work. No need for an intermediate network JSON API with all the encoding/decoding that it entails, just routing on one side instead of two and many more.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

#47

Interviewing is a nightmare.

Hi, I basically agree. But can you expand on this? What exactly do you (or anyone reading this) see as such a problem with regard to interviewing? Especially, anything you see that's gotten worse.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

#48
post #4

I think React is "winning" the framework competition, if we're judging from number of jobs. It seems like a business decision for many people - React can make websites and apps, and it's probably easier. I haven't had enough experience to say, but it seems like Java; not necessarily the best tool, but something easy to hire for. Flutter is also coming in hard on mobile. Also not something I've had enough experience t…

React + TypeScript seems to be to frontend JS as JEE was to Java.

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

#49

A lot of good answers here, but none seem to mention that asp.net core is improving a lot and getting traction. Microsoft bought GitHub and LinkedIn. Oracle is disliked like before.

In my mind, with OpenSource being more and more well regarded, the disdain for C#, a language once Windows-only, grows larger.

Probably just a bias in my circles, as we're heavy OSS users and contributors..?

Re: Ask HN: I'm away from the software industry since 2017; what has happened since?

#50
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We moved from one big box to Kubernetes. Now we have a load of kubernetes related problems to fix.

Learning pains? It is more complex, but the efforts will return value. Email me if you'd like some help debugging and stabilizing

> It is more complex, but the efforts will return value.

It seems Kubernetes is often the wrong tool for the job. The industry, and even Google is starting to recognize that, e.g. Kelsey with his "Monoliths are the future" [1] statement.

That said, boy do I like Kubernetes... It is extremely complex, though, and often its deployment seems not to be justified.

[1] https://changelog.com/posts/monoliths-are-the-future

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