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Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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Look for some NASA/US Gov RFPs and open contracts for some low level manufacturing/sub-contractor work on their space missions(or sub contract work from prime contractors). Get the necessary certifications. When you do win bids, hire the right people, then provide the services, and money starts coming in. I'm sure there is a banker or financial institution out there that'll hand out funding to someone that actually h…

It's actually one of the best solutions proposed here.

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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You... don’t? There is a reason that Elon etc are the ones with bootstrapped space companies and very few others.

SpaceX has raised $3.2B in funding[0]... they are far from bootstrapped.

[0] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/space-exploration-te...

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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I've worked in aerospace and have been reading HN for over a decade. Here's some adult advice, for both the OP and HN in general. Space is a waste of time unless you're a government or a bored billionaire. Objects are too far, and lift is now a commodity. (SpaceX will probably end up shutting down due to lack of lift demand, hence their polluting the sky with micro satellites now.) So if you really want a career in s…

> (SpaceX will probably end up shutting down due to lack of lift demand, hence their polluting the sky with micro satellites now.)

I guess morale is low at Arianespace these days ;)

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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I've kicked this about in my head also, because what geek wouldn't love to do it? I've come to the conclusion though that unless one is already a business and engineering genius with the luck of the gods, it's a ridiculous dream. With that said, a chap called (Sir) Martin Sweeting started Surrey Satellites in the 80s which went on to revolutionise the satellite industry and was sold partially to SpaceX, and then fully to ESA, so it is possible, but he was already a PhD-level scientist/engineer working in the field. Anyway here's a few ideas:

1. You could look at novel launch methods, i.e. centrifugal, rockoon, light-gas space-gun. On the latter Gerald Bull did reach space but needed a truly enormous gun

2. ...but imagine the know-how and resources required to develop a whole system like above that can get something to orbit. And quite apart from building the thing, how are you going to test it without become a lawyer to get the necessary approvals? So perhaps concentrate on one aspect of an example above that is transferrable to other industries. But even then to investigate materials that perform well at high temperatures, for example, it would help to already be a world-leading materials scientist, wouldn't it?

3. Fabrics. Looking at the latest NASA space suit I refuse to believe there isn't scope for improvement, and apart from that I suspect there'll be all kinds of novel fabric requirements. Again you might well find what you develop can be sold for earth-bound use

4. IP. Could you take an ARM-like approach and be merely an IP licenser? You could for example design modular launch systems and let others build them

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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1. Use Deep RL to predict stable 3D protein structures that would not normally occur in Nature 2. Simulate gravitational dynamics to winnow down candidate crystals that cannot be synthesized in terrestrial conditions because they would collapse under their own weight 3. Find novel applications for those proteins such as DNA data storage and computation 4. Design a prototype microgravity factory that operates at scale…

I hate to point this out, but:

Find novel applications for those proteins such as DNA data storage and computation

There's no reason to do step 2 you can do this. Ignore the microgravity requirement and make more profit by finding ones that can work in normal gravity.

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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Some feedback for HN: repeating the story of PayPal/Amazon and saying "you just need lots of money" isn't an answer here. That's exactly what the author put in the question, they know.

Explaining _why_ the question is flawed may be a good answer, but otherwise think about the question and if you don't have a good answer, don't answer.

Re: Ask HN: How would you bootstrap a space company?

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I've worked in aerospace and have been reading HN for over a decade. Here's some adult advice, for both the OP and HN in general. Space is a waste of time unless you're a government or a bored billionaire. Objects are too far, and lift is now a commodity. (SpaceX will probably end up shutting down due to lack of lift demand, hence their polluting the sky with micro satellites now.) So if you really want a career in s…

> SpaceX will probably end up shutting down due to lack of lift demand...

The launch business is tiny compared to what's possible when you can do large volume industrial research and manufacturing in microgravity.

I take the approach that space right now is like the computer industry in the early 1970s. We're about to have our microprocessor moment with fully reusable rockets.

This means ridiculously cheap access to space which could yield entirely new industries in biotech, semiconductors and other areas of research we haven't even imagined.

We're only done the tiniest amount of research so far and have found put that you can grow much larger and purer crystals, antibiotics work in unpredicted ways and a hundred other examples of interesting areas of research.

If launch costs are commodity, then do something with all that capacity. Cisco may have struggled when computer server prices fell, but that made companies like Google and Facebook possible. We're now living in a world that benefits tremendously from one thing becoming a commodity.

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