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Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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Yet I don't want to hire somebody remote because the job requires people to work closely together in the same room on a regular basis. Does it really ?

For the sake of everyone involved, I suggest a company is remote either entirely or not at all. So if everyone else is in the office, I would consider being in the same room a requirement.

That doesn't reflect reality at all.

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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A lot of digital nomads don't actually have the right to work in the country in which they are located

Ssshhhh. You're killing the good vibes man. Don't let pesky things like laws get in the way of a good time.

Every time "digital nomad" comes up, there's an argument about "well that law is stupid, it deserves to be broken"... by foreigners breaking a law in some country they aren't a resident.

I wonder how many would be happy to also see the US/EU/AU etc also flooded by foreigners who turn up, and work illegally for ridiculously more than the locals do, without paying local taxes?

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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Have you considered incorporating in a digital nomad hot-spot country (Thailand comes to mind), renting an office in a co-working space there, and hiring multiple nomads into it at once? It would be nice if remote companies provided co-working office space for their employees / contractors. And at that point, you may as well hire two in the same place.

Sounds like a good way to get arrested, fined and/or jailed, deported and barred from re-entering the country.

Edit: before someone complains "s/he said incorporated". Yeah, but are you really going to fuck around getting 4 local Thai staff for every "nomad" you want to sponsor for a business visa and work permit, only for them to fuck off 3 months later?

It defeats the purpose. You may as well just hire local staff - you can pay them less than a foreigner and still be above local wages, no visas, no work permits (well except your own, which having local staff would help)

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly... From what I've heard, as long as you're staying in Germany (i.e. it is your primary residence) and you work there, they believe you should pay taxes there. The 183 days rule is more for cases when you have two comparable residences at the time (and you travel back and forth between them). Of course, people try their luck and contract using their non-German companies, but I've read on some forum that at…

Why do this if you can just move to a country like London? I personally live in Germany and chosen to work as a normal employee, but I'm aware that the German government doesn't want people to be freelancers/entrepreneurs. I think almost every other EU country is better than Germany in that regard. Estonia being #1(in legislation) and possibly UK being the best market.

If you ignore taxes, I find that the German market is paying slightly better than the UK. Also, if Brexit does happen, the pound will go down even further, tipping the scales in favor of Germany even more. UK was amazing for contracting before the 20% GBP dip right after Brexit referendum.

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly... From what I've heard, as long as you're staying in Germany (i.e. it is your primary residence) and you work there, they believe you should pay taxes there. The 183 days rule is more for cases when you have two comparable residences at the time (and you travel back and forth between them). Of course, people try their luck and contract using their non-German companies, but I've read on some forum that at…

"This way, you have no residence in Germany at all, and also you're there for less than 183 days per year, so they really have no claim to your taxes." Be careful with this. I don't know about Germany in particular, but in many countries tax residency isn't as simple as whether you were present for >=183 days. Take the UK as an example. The relevant legislation (Finance Act 2013) defines a 'Statutory Residence Test'.…

Thanks. The possibility of being „caught” is quite low in this scenario I think, as HMRC has little chance of even finding out about your existence - you don’t have an UK address or a bank account. You ARE frequently crossing the border, but I don’t know if they have access to this information.

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What he's saying is true. I live in Germany for 4 years, and even though I can definitely speak German, only the foreigners are generally willing to(it's a generalisation!). Now, when discussing friendships, the picture is even more bleak. I have loads of foreigner friends, but 0.5 german friend.

How do you have half a German friend? Is he/she half German, or was he/she involved in some terrible guillotine accident?

Because they aren't a "friend", but more somebody I hang out with.

Re: Ask HN: How to hire digital nomads nearby?

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do this if you can just move to a country like London? I personally live in Germany and chosen to work as a normal employee, but I'm aware that the German government doesn't want people to be freelancers/entrepreneurs. I think almost every other EU country is better than Germany in that regard. Estonia being #1(in legislation) and possibly UK being the best market.

If you ignore taxes, I find that the German market is paying slightly better than the UK. Also, if Brexit does happen, the pound will go down even further, tipping the scales in favor of Germany even more. UK was amazing for contracting before the 20% GBP dip right after Brexit referendum.

If you ignore taxes, you go to jail.
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