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Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

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Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#41

Do you demand a registration? Or users can try before giving your their email address? Do you have a mini tutorial (3~5 'swipes') for the first time users? Did you try sending a personalized email to users that created an account and then stopped using?

> Did you try sending a personalized email to users that created an account and then stopped using?

If I stop using an app the last thing I want is to receive spam (and yeah, to my eyes this would be spam).

Don’t do this.

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#43

I think you are fundamentally asking the wrong question. Instead of trying to understand why 80% of the people are leaving, try to find out why 20% are staying. Instead of contacting the people who are uninstalling the app, contact the people who install it and stay with it. Ask them why they are buying and what they are using it for. The people who are uninstalling are not your customers. The people who install and…

Well - in my opinion - having done this day in and day out for last 4 years - the key thing is to look at both users who are leaving and who are staying. We understand the difference between the two and then try to tilt the uninstalling users towards the installing users behaviour. However, sometimes the uninstalling behaviour is specific to something that cohort only and hence both cohorts need to be looked at.

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#45
No idea what your app is, but do you know if the uninstall is happening right after the first open?

I’m asking because I usually uninstall apps either:

- Months later after I notice I’m not using it

- Minutes after opening it for the first time

If you just launched your app, I imagine your uninstall is happening right away.

As an app user, let me tell you what usually makes me uninstall right away.

- App permissions that I don’t want to give. If the app keeps working 100% after I decline, I may keep it. Otherwise, uninstall.

- Prompt for account creation. If the app provides something I REALLY want, I might create an account. If I was just curios, uninstall. If the account creation is with only social accounts (SSO with Facebook or Twitter) and no option for email, uninstall. Others may vary.

- I was looking for an app that does what your app does, and while waiting for a large download, found another app that looks to do that thing better. Either screenshots, reviews, description, something convinced me that it’s better. Downloaded the other one, tried it, decided to keep it and uninstall yours.

- It’s a free app but any useful feature is behind a paid subscription or behind an in-app purchase.

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#46
post #39

1) Create the conversion funnel. EG: clicked ad -> installed app -> registered -> engaged with new user flow -> used product part a -> purchased product part b. What parts should they see and use all broken down. As they progress in the funnel they are more engaged. 2) Fill in all the stats of the conversion funnels. This will give you a baseline to answer: Did my modifications help or make it worse . EG: clicked ad…

5) seems scary to me. Isn't that something you would need the user to opt in to? Or does EDPR not apply to apps?

GDPR does not prohibit tracking. GDPR prohibits not disclosing that you're doing it (and naming 3rd parties that you use).

I like to look at it as a rethink moment for when you build in the mechanism to track. Do I really need this? Is there data I don't need to collect here? Do I need a user's consent?

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#47
Why do you think your churn rate is high? Do you know ow what is the average churn rate of other apps or similar apps? (No, your churn rate is not that bad, it is normal in apps). Another good question is the life time value of each customer and how long your users stay in your app (like since they installed it until they uninstalled it). Create an engagement metric for user use case and try to I prove it, more engage means less churn.

Focus on your target market and measure the churn rate in your target market. Forget the rest of the users, those are noise. Develop what you need for your target market.

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#48
As a general rule, consider number of installations akin to window shopping or browsing in a shop. Most of them will be followed by an uninstallation. The same install/uninstall churn will happen to several similar applications at the same time: when I'm looking for a good app, I might install 10 and uninstall 10, not having found a good one. I just took your product in my hand, wondered about it, and put it back on the shelf. Don't worry about it. I might not be your target segment anyway.

But should you convince me that your app might be worth its while we bump into the next hindrance.

As a general rule, things that make me abort the installation or uninstall right away:

- app crashes or has particularly custom or sluggish UI which stands out from the more modest applications on my phone

- app wants me to sign in to something

- app absolutely requires permissions I don't want to give

These can be born if the application is truly good (useful) and unique (can't go with another app). But most of these points prevent me from figuring out if the app is worth it.

And these all come into consideration only after I have positive expectations of why should I even try your app.

Considering the 20%, it could actually be quite high (depending on the context, app, and target audience of course).

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#49
post #4

I'd select 10 random users who abandoned the app and offered them $10 in Amazon ecards for 10 minutes on the phone with me. Then, I'd ask them what they had hoped for when they signed up, and what went wrong.

I think it would help to provide a questionaire form instead. People really really really don't like talking to strangers on the phone.

Re: Ask HN: What methods and tools can I use to decrease my app churn?

#50
post #4

I'd select 10 random users who abandoned the app and offered them $10 in Amazon ecards for 10 minutes on the phone with me. Then, I'd ask them what they had hoped for when they signed up, and what went wrong.

I think it would help to provide a questionaire form instead. People really really really don't like talking to strangers on the phone.

Speak for yourself. I would prefer a human interaction over a list of questions. Also you'd have more of a chance to get elaboration on things you find interesting.
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