I have an Greasemonkey script called HN Toolkit that lets you display the new post & top post side-by-side. It really helps you catch the good ones that aren't upvoted.
Ask HN: Many quality articles don't go to the front page. What is the problem?
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Re: Ask HN: Many quality articles don't go to the front page. What is the problem?
#42Another suggestion: Adding a small section above the top10 with a random link from "new". And for that link, you need to click yes or no depending of if it is interesting.
What I like about this approach is the randomness in it where random people get random link. I also like the fact that by you aren't choosing between 30 links.. you only get one and you need to say if it's interesting or no. Also, I like the fact that it's on the front page.
So, the top 10 links could be the most yes-ed in a certain period, or the ratio yes/no ratio, or anything really.. You could also put more weight on a yes if you've got more point in HN (Simply because I usually trust their judgement.. for instance, they know when something has already been shown dozen of time)
Also, it feels a little bit more like a game to me.. each time I refresh I need to really participate to say if that special link is interesting or no.. :D
Re: Ask HN: Many quality articles don't go to the front page. What is the problem?
#43Sometimes I feel like a bit of a freeloader, since I never click on "new" in order to upvote the decent submissions. The only suggestions that I have would be (1) to automatically load a handful of "new" submissions in a separate section of the main page (at the expense of destroying the current design and cluttering the page), or (2) giving out karma for upvoting new stories (which is ripe for exploitation by simply…
Maybe considering an upvote on new while it's not on the frontpage yet as submitting the article (and thus getting karma according to the votes on the article) can help. Then upvoting good articles on new gets very attractive.
Re: Ask HN: Many quality articles don't go to the front page. What is the problem?
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a different solution to the reddit one, one that discourages block voting. Perhaps there should be voting groups, essentially a cap on the population of voters. Each time you hit a threshold, you randomly split the voters in two and then the articles you see only get the votes of the people in your group. So one site has multiple groups on the go at one time, all to stop the overwhelming nature of popularity…
Wow. I tried to build a voting-based news-to-your-personal-taste site, but never did I think of this "groups" idea. I'm intrigued. Idea: do it to HN as an A/B experiment: see how the content of the sites diverges. Actually the "/classic" url does this, sort of, by ranking articles not by total votes but by votes from users older than one year.
Now I think about it in the light of day it doesn't solve the problem of too many articles getting submitted.
Re: Ask HN: Many quality articles don't go to the front page. What is the problem?
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a different solution to the reddit one, one that discourages block voting. Perhaps there should be voting groups, essentially a cap on the population of voters. Each time you hit a threshold, you randomly split the voters in two and then the articles you see only get the votes of the people in your group. So one site has multiple groups on the go at one time, all to stop the overwhelming nature of popularity…
Wow. I tried to build a voting-based news-to-your-personal-taste site, but never did I think of this "groups" idea. I'm intrigued. Idea: do it to HN as an A/B experiment: see how the content of the sites diverges. Actually the "/classic" url does this, sort of, by ranking articles not by total votes but by votes from users older than one year.
Yea it suggests really interesting experimental hypotheses: would the content in the different groups diverge or would it stay more or less the same? And would the degree of divergence change over time?
I wonder how strong the correlation would be.