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Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

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Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#41
Building your careers is 99% about making contacts. You make contacts much easier when you are all there in person. Once you have a good network it is a lot easier to work remotely.

To mitigate issues the best thing is to live in a city with a good community oriented around your specialty. That way you can take part in user-groups, small conferences, etc. That is you can network in-person, outside of work. It also allows you to find local jobs where you can start in person and transition to remote.

Also focus on small to medium sized companies. Companies where you can make a visible impact and there isn't as much of the politicking as there can be at larger corps.

The worst thing is to live somewhere remote, not near jobs or a community. You don't want to get in a situation where you have no options if you need them.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#42
I’m mid 30s and have been working remote for the last couple years.

The company has traditional offices, but I’m one of the few employees working remote (note: that I used to work at the office)

Since relocating, I’ve been promoted several times in significant ways and genuinely feel connected and valued at the office.

A lot depends on the company / team I guess. But for me, there’s been little downside and tremendous upside.

YMMV

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#44
The nice thing about remote work is that your downside interactions are minimized also. I find it easier to vent in a room alone about some bone-headed reason why a pull request is rejected, as opposed to an office situation where people could feel slighted over just my blank facial expression.

In some cases, even when I have nothing vested in a project, I feel like people get slighted by my lack of enthusiasm. (This is true even if I am willing to accept management's decisions. A sort of "disagree and commit", if you will.)

I face none of these problems as a remote worker, and I think this is a net positive.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#45

Remote != home. If you lack social interaction or networking, join a co-working space.

Thoroughly second this! I've been working remote for years and having a co-working spot has been a real life saver at times, including for networking.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#46
I'm based in New York City, and I've been working remotely for a company based in San Francisco for two and a half years now.

Personally, I find it's been overall a net benefit to my career, though that's not to say remote work is for everyone, or that every company is structured to provide career opportunities for people who work remotely.

I actually wrote in more detail about my experience and the things I've learned in the process which have helped make remote working work well for me. https://adityamukerjee.net/2017/10/03/remote-work-2-years-in...

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you share what contributed to the healthy remote culture that allowed you to build a solid base?

Although I hope the OP responds since I'd also be interested in details, one thing I've read that helps create a positive environment for remote workers is to make the entire company remote (such as Gitlab) rather than a mix of office and remote employees. This way everyone's using the same communication channels and it reduces the situations where certain groups are more in or out of the loop than other groups.

It certainly helps to have the whole company, or at least whole team, be remote. Then it's a matter of constantly working on process and communication to keep things working smoothly, and with as little friction due to the remote nature as possible. We've experimented with various styles of meetings, collaboration and code review, project tracking, etc., to find what helps everyone on the team to work toward common goals as effectively as possible, while all working remotely. This can mean choosing the most effective tools for the team - chat software, project tracker, etc. - as well as laying out clear processes for how those tools will be used, so everyone is on the same page. (We also like to allow complete flexibility of working hours, which brings with it other challenges that we tackle in a similar manner.)

Finally, while I don't think managing a remote team necessarily needs to be more difficult than managing one in-office, I think the effects of a poor manager are exacerbated by remote work. A poor manager may not know exactly what everyone on the team is doing, or how to motivate individual members, but s/he can at least make sure everyone is there on time and appears to be working. Obviously this is a terrible approach, but with remote work you can't even do that. It's really important to be aware of the team's priorities, and how everyone is working toward them. Also, different developers will work better with varying amounts and flavors of oversight. While this is true of in-office teams as well, it's a bit easier to manage these differences when you have in-person cues to work from. So basically, for the most part, being an effective remote manager requires essentially the same skills as being a good manager in general; they're just that much more important.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#48
Yes and no.

No, because going remote opened me up to opportunities I previously didn’t have. It has been fantastic for my experience in terms of communication, mentoring, and in learning new roles (e.g taking responsibility for infrastructure).

In that sense, my career has blossomed!

On the other hand, I believe that progression would be a struggle because remote work can create such a massive comfort zone that it takes a lot more effort to break out and network than it does if you’re co-located. It can be very isolating and difficult to break out of that lonely routine.

With hindsight, I wouldn’t go remote again unless I had the full network of both professional and personal support to healthily sustain it.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#49
It depends a lot on the project and your immediate team situation. As an example of what’s possible, look what happens over pull requests, email, and chat in open source projects. Shared goals, shared communication mechanisms -> stuff gets done, networks are forged, conferences arise, people have beers, people get jobs. Now, corporate work has much different structure and goals, so you have to watch out.

I have had very high growth remote work periods when I was engrossed in a good project and working with a boss who consistently engaged with me electronically (despite being in the office himself) and pushed me.

But teams and projects change. Unless remote connection is really engrained in the company, that is when growth does not come so easily but requires intentional effort outside.

Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

#50
I’ve worked as the only remote employee for an NYC-based company for over a decade.

In terms of within-company career, working remotely (unless everyone does) will impose a drastic cost on possible advancement. And in my case, a hard ceiling on my title.

Why am I ok with that? Because if you view your career in a broader context, not necessarily specific to the company who currently pays your salary, there are trade-offs. I have less commute, but less mentorship. Etc.

It really depends on the company, and also how you view your career.

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