Cons: Unrealistic and nonsense requirements e.g.
fullstack development or test eng.: MSc required
Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
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#42Pro: - What tech you actually work with. Don't list equivalents. If the people knew the area they would already know if they have equivalent skills. - Salary range and years of experience. - What kind of actual real world user problems are you solving? Cons: - Anything about culture (it's always bullshit), team player, or being emotionally mature - Useless fluff about "loving to work in a fast company", or how you we…
Culture is always bullshit until you get rejected with a line such as "unfortunately we don't see a good culture fit here"
Note that it is still bullshit at that point.
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#43Cons: Below market salary AND tiny stock options. If you're offering a Sr. Engineer a $50k-$70k salary, then offering 0.1%-0.25% of the equity is unacceptable.
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#44Everybody are taking about job ads. A job offer is something else entirely (and a legal document!)
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#45Pro: - What tech you actually work with. Don't list equivalents. If the people knew the area they would already know if they have equivalent skills. - Salary range and years of experience. - What kind of actual real world user problems are you solving? Cons: - Anything about culture (it's always bullshit), team player, or being emotionally mature - Useless fluff about "loving to work in a fast company", or how you we…
Culture is always bullshit until you get rejected with a line such as "unfortunately we don't see a good culture fit here"
I got through to the final offer stage of a job, and sent through a few questions to ensure I was making the correct decision. One of those was "are you okay with me being involved with the local X community by doing things like giving talks". The company actually didn't like this at all and revoked their offer (offer was verbal not on paper at this stage.) I consider that to be "not being a good culture fit"
At one of my last roles, we actively tried to expand the team with people who weren't caucasian males so that our inter-team communication may get better (amongst other pros.) Mind you that company in question also had rules about having to interview females for every role.
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#46[PRO]
- Detailed Job Description, including:
Company Info + Role Responsibilities + Salary + Benefits
[CON] - Entry level salary requiring 3+ years of experience
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#47Pros:
$ listed up front
Actual details on health insurance.
Cons:
Anything about dogs, beer, snacks, ping pong, or company outings on weekends or after hours.
The word "startup".
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#48Pro: Concise and to the point, no waffle or any of that new age "growth hacking, rockstar" nonsense - don't try and dress a job up as something it's not. Tell me roughly what salary range you're offering in, and tell me what I'll be working with. I want to know about your product/s, and how the job I'm looking at relates to it.
Cons: Babbling on and on about your 'culture' or how much coffee you all consume. Being vague, and not actually describing the job. Not listing other requirements like excessive travel, on call, the fact that your office is 200km away from civilisation etc.
Not relevant to me now, but in general - don't call something a 'Junior' position and then ask for 5+ years of experience, and then don't follow that up by saying "Oh but it's the most Junior role in our company". That's bullshit, and you know it, you're just looking for an excuse to pay someone less.
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#49Pros - detailed listing of day to day work the candidate would be performing.
Cons - In the age of gaming the system in favor of H1B candidates I see a lot of ads where they throw in requirements that have nothing to do with the job but the H1B they want to hire does have. Not allowing experience in place of degree. Intern jobs that want 2-5 years of experience in a specific technology. Any position that says "this is not a remote position" or anything similar automatically gets added to my twit filter. Anything with the words DevOps or Agile.
Re: Ask HN: What do you expect or hate to see in a job offer decription?
#50Everybody are taking about job ads. A job offer is something else entirely (and a legal document!)
I thought the same but the OP also starts listing the things he hates to see in a job posting so I think he screwed up the wording.