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I'm genuinely interested in this topic. I'm not saying that vegan diet is the best diet out there, but what I've read so far it really seems to be a much healthier alternative than the "western default". Some interesting studies about vegan diet and it's impact on health: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1627S.full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2007.270/full http://www.bmj.com/content/293/6560/…
I'll take a look later...
Take your b12 vitamins too. Do not eat poorly, take the time to make food lists and get what you need so you don't end up eating less nutritious food. Try tofu. initially eating at bbq may be tough but your friends and family will support you.
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What's the cider vinegar for?
Drinking vinegar is a well known "get slim faster" myth. Nocive at long term. Vinegar is caustic to tissues, can increase the probability of having dangerous inner bleeding episodes and will damage quickly your tooth enamel if you drink it each day. Some people had died by this practice, still popular among anorectic people because bleeding regularly leads to anaemia and weight lose.
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I think you are trying to draw a scientific conclusion from extremely rare anecdotes. I would look at the adventists health[1] studies or the Blue Zones[2] for longevity data associated to diet and lifestyle. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventist_Health_Studies [2]- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone
Not, In fact I'm trying to start some critic discussion. If somebody claims that a vegan diet is healthier and better, I would expect some facts that support that claim at least. Do you know somebody that became centenary following a strict vegan diet? I think that we can discard directly all historical data of "vegan" people living before 1945 or so, because some vitamins weren't still industrially synthesized. This…
The links I provided show studies that support that claim. If you are interested in more, please visit nutritionfacts.org.
> Do you know somebody that became centenary following a strict vegan diet?
Google Dr. Ellsworth Wareham. 101 old, vegan for the last 50 years, retired surgeon who worked until age 95 and is still very active. I'm sure there are others, but again, this alone doesn't prove anything when it comes to which diet is healthier.
Since a very tiny percentage the world is vegan, of course you will find more centenarians who are not vegan, that's why you need to look at studies that control for this and other factors.
> This people either faked their veganism or were really very ill.
If you are thinking about b12, which is the only supplement most vegans today are advised to take, keep in mind that this vitamin is produced by bacteria. Before we washed our foods and lived in sterile environments, b12 was not a problem.
Abstinence from animal products dates as far back as Pythagoras with his Pythagorean diet, at least.
> On the other hand, reaching 100 years with a mediterranean diet or a Japanese diet based in marine food has been proved as uncommon, but perfectly possible, with dozens of cases reported at least.
The Okinawans, whose life expectancy was among the highest in the world, ate significantly less fish than the rest of Japan. Their staple was sweet potatoes (69% of their calories)[1].
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Not, In fact I'm trying to start some critic discussion. If somebody claims that a vegan diet is healthier and better, I would expect some facts that support that claim at least. Do you know somebody that became centenary following a strict vegan diet? I think that we can discard directly all historical data of "vegan" people living before 1945 or so, because some vitamins weren't still industrially synthesized. This…
> If somebody claims that a vegan diet is healthier and better, I would expect some facts that support that claim at least. The links I provided show studies that support that claim. If you are interested in more, please visit nutritionfacts.org. > Do you know somebody that became centenary following a strict vegan diet? Google Dr. Ellsworth Wareham. 101 old, vegan for the last 50 years, retired surgeon who worked un…
It proves that it is possible. Is a lot in my opinion.
> The links I provided show studies that support that claim
Okinawans aren't vegan people. They eat fish or cephalopods 3 days a week on average, that is less that other Japanese people, but more than a lot of europeans. They eat more pork than average japanese. Its diet includes potatoes, cucumbers, tea, relatively few rice, some meat, all parts of pork, squids, octopus, shellfish, echinoderms, poultry and eggs. As much other lactose intolerant Asian people, they don't use dairy products but this is not for ideological reasons.
In sum, this is not a vegan style life, is an omnivorous low fat content diet combined with a lot of exercise and frequent exposure to cold temperatures.
Many people living in blue zones have several things in common. They are located in coastal areas or next. They exercise moderate but regularly, and avoid stress. Eat small portions and low fat content diets but including both animals and vegetables, and a lot of sea food. They are omnivorous with a wide food spectrum, not vegan.
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Because it's easy to substitute carbs for animal products and you wind up incredibly unhealthy but "vegan." Big diet changes do take some planning and effort in order to ensure you are eating in a physically sustainable manner.
That's a two second google search though. It can start with legumes, beans, rice, fruit, and vegetables.
I was a vegan for five years. I was also into bodybuilding for a couple of years. For unrelated reasons(?), I have leaky gut now. What I've learned is: fasting is good for you. Fatty meat and seafood is good for you. Mushrooms are good for you. Root type veggies are the best, except for potatoes. Fuck you potatoes I miss you. Avoid juice and sofa, just eat fruit. Dairy, eggs, and grains can be a grey area. They are l…
What's the cider vinegar for?
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What's the cider vinegar for?
It kills (in small dosages) bacteria/fungus/viruses and is well tolerated. Try some in a glass of water next time you get sick.
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> If somebody claims that a vegan diet is healthier and better, I would expect some facts that support that claim at least. The links I provided show studies that support that claim. If you are interested in more, please visit nutritionfacts.org. > Do you know somebody that became centenary following a strict vegan diet? Google Dr. Ellsworth Wareham. 101 old, vegan for the last 50 years, retired surgeon who worked un…
> this alone doesn't prove anything It proves that it is possible. Is a lot in my opinion. > The links I provided show studies that support that claim Okinawans aren't vegan people. They eat fish or cephalopods 3 days a week on average, that is less that other Japanese people, but more than a lot of europeans. They eat more pork than average japanese. Its diet includes potatoes, cucumbers, tea, relatively few rice, s…
Again, for the only long term study on a vegan population, look at the US adventists studies, who live longer than any other population in the US.