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Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#391

I use Kagi, and it's worth every penny. Google has enshittified itself into irrelevance, and ChatGPT is too ponderous. Kagi is like Google in it's prime - fast, relevant and giving a range of results.

using Kagi makes me appreciate how many of my searches are region specific. Kagi seems so incredibly dumb in this regard compared to Google

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#392
> ... I exclusively use ChatGPT for any kind of search or question.

This constrains the search space to whatever training data set used for the LLM. A commercial search engine includes resources outside this data set.

Using a search engine for responses to natural language questions is of dubious value as that is not their intended purpose.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#394

Search is primarily a portal - you know a particular resource exists, you just don't know its exact URL. You hear about this new programming language called "Frob", and you assume it must have a website. So you google "Frob language". You hear that there was a plane crash in DC, and assume (CNN/AP/your_favorite_news_site) has almost certainly written an article about it. You google "DC plane crash." LLMs aren't ever…

> Search is primarily a portal - you know a particular resource exists, you just don't know its exact URL.

Kind of like a manual, with an index.

RTFM people.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#395
It depends on what I'm looking for. If I have a specific thing that I'm just looking for an answer on, then I typically will use ChatGPT. Most of my google searches are either navigational, things i know Google will return more quickly than ChatGPT ("how old is this actor", "when was xx player drafted") or when I'm interested in browsing results (looking for recipes for borscht, I want to see a few different recipes).

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

#398
I only use LLMs when I don't know what I am looking for. Otherwise, search engines all the way.

LLMs can't be trusted, you have no way to tell between a correct answer and a hallucination. Which means I often end up searching what the LLM told me just to check, and it is often wrong.

Search engines can also lead you to false information, but you have a lot more context. For example, a StackOverflow answer has comments, and often, they point out important nuances and inaccuracies. You can also cross-reference different websites, and gauge how reliable the information is (ex: primary source vs Reddit post). A well trained LLM can do that implicitly, but you have no idea how it did for your particular case.

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