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Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by Oreb »

Agingcoder wrote: post #133
sorahn wrote: post #7

My outcome was the shutdown of Apollo, rather than the blackout. I no longer read Reddit on my phone. (Except for a link or two clicked from something else, but even then I go to `old.reddit` instead to read the comments). That was really where I wasted the most time on it. It’s kind of a relief. I think I was too “lazy” to stop on my own because Apollo was so comfortable to use.

Agreed it means I no longer read Reddit at all because Apollo’s gone. I tried last week ( after a few months off Reddit) to install the Reddit app, and it’s appallingly bad. It’s so confusing that I’m not quite sure what sub I’m reading, what’s user generated, and what’s an ad ( I was never a prolific poster, commenter, mod or anything - just reading is difficult now ) So independently of the politics, I’ve tried to…

Narwhal 2 is not bad, IMHO. It’s almost as nice as Apollo on the iPhone, and much better than Apollo on the iPad.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by denimnerd42 »

DavidPiper wrote: post #318
richwater wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this comment cant be real

Not OP and not on TT, but some of my family have told me they have the same issue with movies and TV now. I assume it's dopamine addiction playing out in the extreme.

I don’t know. I think the writing has gotten bad. I like thrillers and dramas. The old good stuff Ive already watched at this point. It’s nice when I run across something good I havent seen. The new stuff I can just predict what’s going to happen in a way I wish they’d just get to the point. Maybe I dont know whats going to happen but all the dead end loops are just excruciating. I watch some pretty boring sports like F1, motogo, and baseball so even though they go slow and require patience at least there’s some storyline thats not predictable. With tiktok they get to their hook or point within a minute or three so even if I know it’s something stupid I know the point is coming soon or I can just fast forward next. Mine is also curated towards my hobbies so it gives me ideas about what to do next or how I can improve.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by PurpleRamen »

x86x87 wrote: post #18
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

Some Reddit communities fled to other platforms such as Lemmy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(social_network) Many subreddit moderators protested in various ways and were removed and replaced. Reddit never agreed or compromised and for the most part the movement seems to have run out of steam. Maybe if Reddit squeezes more, more users will go to Lemmy and similar alternative platforms?

Nah. A lot of power users are gone. Now it will slowly slide into irrelevance.

New power users will take their place. The platform is still big and fame. What we've seen is mainly a shift from old to new generation.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by slashtab »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #205
slashtab wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iirc there was a report in the Verge that overall content quality has fallen. r/all has mostly short trending tiktok video, earlier it used to be niche interesting topic, you wouldn't find anywhere else. I started using tildes.net which is invite only interesting community. https://tildes.net/register?code=QF8KC-GAWKJ-K6WQ6 https://tildes.net/register?code=F67V6-483W1-ADFS0

I heard about Tildes recently and sent them an email to request an invite but they never replied.

Do you need one?

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by mlrtime »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #48

The end result was a stalemate. Reddit did not change any of its policies. Enough of the people responsible for posting and managing content left the platform to cause a noticeable impact on it. Here's a fun thing to look at, https://subredditstats.com/ for any major subreddit, e.g.: https://subredditstats.com/r/worldnews https://subredditstats.com/r/explainlikeimfive https://subredditstats.com/r/videos All of the mo…

. Enough of the people responsible for posting and managing content left the platform to cause a noticeable impact on it.

This is untrue from my pov. I see no change at all, /r/all is useless garbage memes. My custom page is mostly high signal. And the occasional tech search yields good results.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by mlrtime »

crtified wrote: post #195

As a casual but persistent user, it pains me to say it - because ethically I support the grassroots side of the equation - but as a path of least resistance to casual, anonymous public engagement on a wide range of topics, there seems no viable alternative. [For a given subjective value of 'viable', naturally!]. So after a period of abstention, I gradually ended up back there, simply because I know of no other sizeab…

Looking at these posts people want to be on the "right side" of this issue and I don't get it.

I still use reddit the same today as I have been for the last 10+ years (chrome + RES). /r/all is as bad as it's ever been, however my subbed feed hasn't changed much.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by DavidPiper »

denimnerd42 wrote: post #382
DavidPiper wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP and not on TT, but some of my family have told me they have the same issue with movies and TV now. I assume it's dopamine addiction playing out in the extreme.

I don’t know. I think the writing has gotten bad. I like thrillers and dramas. The old good stuff Ive already watched at this point. It’s nice when I run across something good I havent seen. The new stuff I can just predict what’s going to happen in a way I wish they’d just get to the point. Maybe I dont know whats going to happen but all the dead end loops are just excruciating. I watch some pretty boring sports lik…

I've recently taken a trip into "Weird Fiction", which is scratching my itch for more variety in fantasy.

I'm also finding that just "getting old" means the more books I read, shows I've seen, etc, the more I find myself saying "oh I've seen this kind of thing before". True, non-dopamine-based novelty is harder and harder to come by.

I think they're separate problems, though I'm going to make a huge leap and say that I think the writing problem is actually in part a function of the dopamine problem. Writers are both influenced more by "short media", and required to cater for audiences who enjoy/are addicted to it, even if the product is long-form.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by random42_ »

richwater wrote: post #275
denimnerd42 wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tiktok made tv shows and movies unwatchable for me haha. that kind of media is just too slow. only sports at this point. I would say I watch 45m/day of tiktok. 5m here and there.

this comment cant be real

I know quite a significant number of people that said the same thing. But it's not that they can't watch movies in itself: they can't _sit_ through an entire movie so what they do now now is watch those movies on TT, one short clip at a time, spread over a few days.

Re: Ask HN: What was the outcome of Reddit blackout?

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Post by mschuster91 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #351
mschuster91 wrote: post #246

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For what it's worth: many of the NSFW subreddits are dead . Even r/gonewild, one of the OGs - either they've gotten closed due to being unmoderated or they've been overrun by onlyfxns spam, or they've been hit by some weird downranking like GW. Particularly the nsfw loss hits hard for those interested in niche communities. We've lost tumblr, never had any of the Meta (FB, Instagram) views, Reddit is holding on on thr…

I imagine that will be the upcoming drama after the looming "payout reddit karma" drama passes over. Reddit's been hostile to NSFW posts and I think at some point soon-ish (1-2 years) they are going to pull a tumblr as well. That will be when the site really starts to die. I just hope the fediverse or any other alternative is preparing itself for that next big drama. Because I feel it's a matter of when at this point…

> I just hope the fediverse or any other alternative is preparing itself for that next big drama. Because I feel it's a matter of when at this point, not if.

The question is, does the Fediverse want this level of responsibility? Moderating ordinary content is hard enough, moderating porn is worse because of all the legal liability: various countries have extremely strict laws regarding access of minors (e.g. Germany), there are various definitions of CSAM (again, Germany being very strict by banning not just anime "minors" aka lolicon but also textual erotica of such), then there is the issue with "revenge porn" and getting that deleted across the Fediverse...

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