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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Frankl is a great place to start.

No a psychiatrist is. Stop wasting people's time and put them in more danger than they already are.

Speaking as someone who has done both, you are wrong, it's a great place to start

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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The answer is of course, yes. A few anecdotes:

- My father had me at age 44. Moved the same year into their first home, and he got a new break with a small business loan to start what would become a then famous restaurant for his generation.

- My good friend and godfather to my son is living his best life now about to enter his 50s. He started a PhD program in his late 30s, and was going into his 40s with Covid upheaving all the universities unsure if he was going to make it. He preserved and received tenure.

- Our pastor at age 58 was a deacon for decades, unsure if he would ever get to realize his dream of becoming a minister. He devoted most of his entire life to this cause. Most recently, he was traveling 3-4 hours to help our community with services, and because of his dedication was noticed by our bishop and was elevated to the priesthood for a new parish community, something unheard of if you know how these things work. At age 60 he now lives in a new place in a new home with a new job, and is thriving.

The key strand in all of this was faith, hope, and perseverance (not necessarily in that order). I have been depressed. Most of my family are. Try to therapy if you can. Even if you don't "believe in it" simply having someone there to talk to can help you work through those thoughts you are having. What I learned is to be more forgiving with myself. You can feel depressed. It's ok. So many people do. It's unfortunately now a normal part of this broken world. But refuse to let it conquer you. Stand up to it. Battle it. Create yourself a mental advocate to fire back at those dark thoughts. Even if you think it' silly, then do it for silliness sake. Don't let those dark thoughts control you. Preservere. Keep the faith. Put one foot in front of the other, even if it seems pointless, even if it seems all for naught. Fortune favors those who try.

You seem to know what the first step is. Take it. Come back to the states. Get involved in a community. There are so many here. Go out on a limb, try a place you never would think to go. If you feel like you are at the bottom, then you only have everything to gain.

Wishing you the best, and praying for you.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Why?

Maybe for minor things it's good. But for depression and serious mental issues absolutely not. For example you can't do analysis without being physically present with your doctor [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis

Psychoanalysis is pretty much discredited as a scientific discipline, nowadays.

There's also a lot of evidence of remote therapy being just as effective as in-person therapy.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Yes to your direct question.

I can only share from my own experience.

You have already made the biggest step by acknowledging how you feel. Seeking professional help is a must. One to one, in person, counselling was much, much better for me than reading advice online.

A good counsellor should help you untangle your thoughts and give you some structure. It will take time-it was in the order of decades for me, but I have underlying mental health issues anyway, but please do not put pressure on yourself for a quick fix. Be your own best friend and practice patience where you can.

There are always options-it might not seem like it to you now, but there is nothing set in stone for the rest of your life and how you want to live it. All things are possible. The road to those possibilities may seem like it runs into an abyss as your mind, right now, wants to take you down there.

During my trauma, I learnt that my mind was controlling me and not the other way around. My thinking was not rational, and I was reactive to internal stimulation-stuck in permanent fear mode from flight/fight thinking.

Calming the mind is hard work and not easy, but with help I was able to move forward. There were relapses aplenty. Be prepared for setbacks and acknowledge them as progression on the path to recovery, not as a stick to beat yourself with.

If I may, could I recommend some reading? During my worst, I was drawn to a feeling that I needed to wipe the thinking slate clean and gain insights into why I had such (recurring) suffering. I found texts from Eastern philosophy very helpful to help me gain mental discipline and open myself up critical deconstruction of myself so I could re-assemble with some tools for the future. Again, not an easy thing for me to do as it was hard to concentrate during those times but, eventually, it was easier.

I not asking you to embrace any spiritual beliefs as you can ignore those if they crop up in texts, but perhaps to extract any wisdoms and lessons that appeal to you and help you feel better.

Some of the books I found interesting; "The Power Of Now" - Eckhart Tolle, "How to Solve Our Human Problems: The Four Noble Truths" - Kelsang Gyatso, "Meditations" - Marcus Aurelius

It was a slow journey, but eventually I realised that my mind was keeping me in fear and at the centre of a worldview of insecurity, doubt, self hate and blame. Books like these led me to realise that that worldview was wrong and develop the mental discipline to be reflective and mindful.

I wish you every kindness wherever your path takes you. Be kind to yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#386
I'm sorry that you're going through a difficult time. As others have mentioned, seeking therapy could be a helpful step.

If it's hard to find a therapist in your small town, you may want to consider talking to your regular doctor about getting some medication to help improve your mental health. I personally tried this approach when I was feeling low and it helped me make better decisions and get back on track within a month or so.

It's important to keep in mind that even if you've achieved a lot of success and have a happy family, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll always feel like a success. I've experienced this myself, even though I had everything, I felt like a failure.

However, I have confidence that once you take care of your mental health, you'll feel like you haven't wasted your life and will appreciate your past experiences.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#387
You need a partner. I'm only speaking from my own perspective but I used to think I was born to be a loner but having a partner awakens something in you, love basically. It's wonderful and it gives you a will to go on.

And I know it's a slog to meet someone, trust me I know. But you just have to do it. You have to make an effort and weed through dozens of weird dates before you meet someone.

For me it came completely unexpected. I had resigned myself to enjoying life, was at a computer festival and suddenly there she was.

I know several people who turned their life around at 40, in fact I used to say that it's a cut off point. If you haven't turned yourself around by then, you might just end up dead. I'm sorry to be so frank, but that was how I thought before I read your post so it has nothing to do with you.

But in my perspective it has been mostly career criminals and addicts. So that's where I'm coming from.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

#388
You are not alone in this. I feel you. I am in my 40s and I am constantly trying to improve myself. I believe it is possible to turn yourself around.

I quickly wanted to share fresh resource that might help you. I watched this documentary last night which has lots of practical advice (tools) from a therapist. I highly recommend to watch when you have a chance. It is on Netflix: https://youtu.be/UKCmefQdplI

Called Stutz by Jonah Hill.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I have found this to be a good, if somewhat unreliable way to find therapists. But it definitely is a real resource that shouldn't be sandbagged with downvotes.

And A decent therapist is better than an ideal one. Just getting started talking to someone is key.

Indeed, the key concept is "good enough".

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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post #297

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Why?

Maybe for minor things it's good. But for depression and serious mental issues absolutely not. For example you can't do analysis without being physically present with your doctor [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis

> For example you can't do analysis without being physically present with your doctor

Why not?

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