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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Thankfully I'm employed, but from what I've heard there pro diversity bias against hiring straight white males. Does that have any basis in anybody's personal experience?

Yes I've heard lots of weak people discussing a fear of competing in a wider talent pool and then crying about "bias" as an excuse rather than taking responsibility for their own results.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Imho, anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time. And arguably even a negative signal. Productive people have jobs to do instead of grinding Monopoly karma. Yes, this absolutely includes LinkedIn thought leadership. I know MS and recruiters love to push the 'it matters' line, but I'd ask the reader -- who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair?

> who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair? Who would you rather interview : someone who has a great resume, and a strong LinkedIn profile, and connections to a strong peer community who can endorse them, or a faceless rando that shows up in your inbox with a PDF, amongst thousands of others, with zero referrals? I'm not endorsing LI grind -- I too hate it, but ignor…

LinkedIn referrals mean jack shit.

As I said:

> anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time

Because everything on LinkedIn literally exists to be farmed. And why wouldn't it? LinkedIn's customers are recruiters. Users are the currency.

OP would be better served by actually networking with their peers. Not in app-mediated (and -monetized) ways, but in normal social human ways.

Sometimes it's like people forgot how to say "Hey, want to grab a coffee and catch up? What's been going on with you?"

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Lost my job in early 2023. Couldn't find anything (25 years of exp, director of engineering managerial/technical type, great at what i do by past coworkers/bosses admission). By EOY I had to sell my house, figured I could use the (significant) profits to buy time or I could travel and make the time a little more enjoyable, so I set out to explore most of Europe thinking, well I'll for sure find a job before I run out…

How can you be a director and be applying for jobs like a 22 year old?

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Also unemployed for the last 3 years after a layoff. Partially on purpose because I felt I needed a pause to recharge but I kept extending because money was not a problem due to stonks going up. I learned react, go. Played videogames and had a child. Things are going well. Part of me is afraid that too much time off the market will make me not fit for the workforce anymore but tbh I feel like my mental health really…

> Go back to my home country where I probably could retire now May want to consider that things won’t stay the same price for 40 years?

If the money is invested, it should be fine.

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I was unemployedish (some freelancing) for around 18 months and I'm starting what I think might be my dream job on Monday. I was very burnt out after being fired / laid off from multiple unethical tech startups and a divorce. During the ego death I realized that I no longer had any desire to do work that wasn't making the world a better place. I considered changing careers because it's very hard to find software jobs…

I'm also starting on Monday after two years without work, godspeed to you!

Congratulations, friend. I hope it works out well for you. :)

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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No need to be snarky, dude is going through a rough time, can use some empathy

Everyone thinks they know better, that's just the nature of people on internet forums. That's why I stopped asking for CV reviews - as soon as people know I'm struggling they come up with pointless edits. His point boils down to "you have no network, physical or digital" which might sound accurate with the information he's got, but isn't in reality because there's obviously more context than what I've shared here. I…

What have you tried? And why don't you make a LinkedIn now and add the people you know from before?

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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For anyone here struggling with being unemployed and not finding a job, I’d suggest looking into “never search alone”. It’s a book and program to develop a system for finding your next job along with a community and support system.

It’s free beyond the cost of the book (which you can probably find in your public library) and has helped thousands.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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post #59

Lost my job in early 2023. Couldn't find anything (25 years of exp, director of engineering managerial/technical type, great at what i do by past coworkers/bosses admission). By EOY I had to sell my house, figured I could use the (significant) profits to buy time or I could travel and make the time a little more enjoyable, so I set out to explore most of Europe thinking, well I'll for sure find a job before I run out…

How can you be a director and be applying for jobs like a 22 year old?

And also had less than a year of savings ...

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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You've got every right to resent it if he's not at least maintaining the household and providing a better home life for the two of you in lieu of additional income. There's no shame in being a homemaker, and heck, I'd do it myself if I had a partner that could provide for the two of us. Cooking, cleaning, laundry, landscaping, repairs, upkeep, finances...I like the appeal, but that's because I like the job of a homem…

> You've got every right to resent it if he's not at least maintaining the household and providing a better home life for the two of you in lieu of additional income. The parent comment didn't mention that at all. > And if they balk at such a notion, well...there's more data for you to act upon in your relationship. Wild how quickly a comment about someone's husband being out of work but applying for jobs jumps to as…

This. Gender roles run deep, even here. I don’t think comments would appreciate a man complaining his wife only made 1/4 as him.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone else been unemployed for over two years?

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Couple years back I walked away from a company that IPO’ed, cashed out enough to not worry about rent or food for the next 20–30 years. I swore off jobs, told myself I’d build something of my own. But I haven’t built anything. Haven’t even tried applying anywhere, too stubborn for that. Most days I just circle around ideas, start, stop, drop. Repeat. Money isn’t the problem—it’s this gnawing restlessness, this sense…

Most people underappreciate how tough it is to get yourself motivated & creating anything when the structure of a job falls away. Its fine to go take a job, just for the structure/mental stimulation it provides.

If you do take a job, I wouldn't be surprised if you eventually find a passion project that'll make everything fall into place. Its ok that it takes time to discover that passion.

(I took 2 years off for an entrepreneurial project. Finished it in the first year, bummed around purposeless for the next one. Went back to work early. 15 years later, beginning to get curious/driven again.)

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