Literally gatekeeping
Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#372Sounds like it'd be pretty easy to vibe-code the site you want
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if you're allowed to promote alternatives to HN, but Lobste.rs has tags which you can follow or completely block. Plus I've found the quality of the discussion is higher than HN, at the cost of much lower quantity.
> at the cost of much lower quantity. Which they could solve by having a less dumb invite system. They can very easily confirm I am not a bot nor a spammer based on any number of objective metrics I can provide to them. But instead the answer is "idle in IRC, hope for the best" and thus they end up with the audience who is willing to jump through those hoops
If you're looking for an invite my email is on my hn profile, email me and I'll invite you
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. I joined in 2016. I guess it all depends on what the cutoff is for "newcomers." I suppose you could call anyone who signed on after 2007 a newcomer. 2. "demanding?" I wrote: >Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across. The increasing AI/LLM domination of…
>The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me. Since you say this, I'm curious why you've also submitted about a dozen AI/LLM or adjacent articles in just the last two weeks. One was even a few hours before posting this Ask HN. That makes me think I'm not understanding something about your thinking.
You make sense. In my ideal world there would be HNxAI and HN. I'd submit to both, and also regularly frequent each.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, he basically said directly that he likes Haskell lol
Oh haha I meant his username ;)
Back in the early days of HN most people thought my username was my initials. Alas, if those were actually my initials it would be a fantastic example of nominative determinism.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#376I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…
To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse) Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it. Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.
>>To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse)
HN's power is its simplicity. We don't need any of those features.
This is one of those rare old internet places that still has no feature clutter, ads and other distracting and irritating UI elements.
Sometimes something works fine and it doesn't need to be changed.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#377I agree but this problem is far from limited to HN. Something about AI gets some people to force it into every discussion in a way that crypto never managed to do.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t want the visual clutter.
greasemonkey / custom css
If the main purpose of topic tags is to allow filtering and aggregation, the tags don't need to be that visible/prominent in the first place.
I'm not saying this is the answer either, because I don't know if it's a great fit for HN, but managing and verifying such tags would fit well into somethingkme the ol' the moderation and Meta-moderation systems from Slashdot.
(Using LLMs to generate initial topic tags once per article instead of having independent implementations burn up compute over it dynamically also seems like a way more reasonable way to use them toward this end.)
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#379yes. i agree
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the filters UI at the top shows "llm, ai" instead of "llm, ai, agent" then you probably have that previous search saved in localStorage.
Huge respect for all your articles and work on llms, but this example should have been using AI to create a tool that uses AI to intelligently filter hacker news :)
Someone posted that last week.