Hugs to all the Firefox developers and SREs who investigated this.
Bring on the front lines for such a crucial and complex piece of software and associated infrastructure is tough.
Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?
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#372I really hope the auto-update component doesn't have the same issue, otherwise Firefox is essentially dead on millions of computers owned by non-techies.
Was blocked on my machine too, but spontaneously started working again after a complete reboot without the disable http3 fix, so there is hope! :D
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#373I love Firefox. It's depressing to see the hate they're getting in the comments.
Ever since a bigoted scoundrel had to resign as CEO of Mozilla by trying to deny humans theirs rights, HN always has a generally negative view of Firefox. Just notice the outrage on the paltry 2 million salary of their CEO, while the same people will come to defend multi milion dollar salaries of white male CEOs who are far far worse than Mitchell Baker.
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#374Did not experience this on the firewalled subnet. But I did with direct subnet to Internet.
(Closer examination of default-deny firewall shows that HTTP3 are being blocked due to custom UDP connection tracking.)
I’m fine with that.
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good question. Because for security reasons you want to stay up-to-date on software that connects to various websites. At the same time, from a functionality point of view I wished I'd never have to update anything.
It's not a question of avoiding updates altogether, but the sad reality that it always seems to choose the most inconvenient and/or expensive time to do it. If they'd just do as Thunderbird does -- notify me that there's an update and ask me what action I'd like to take -- there'd be no problem. As it is, being unable to choose when the update happens is unacceptable. FWIW I've tried every documented setting, "enterp…
Hmm, works for me (Firefox ESR) under Preferences > General and there "Allow Firefox to" ... "Check for updates but let you choose to install them"
That's s private installation, a company-wide centrally managed might work differently ... but companies normally want to control updates too.
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#376What's driving me crazy about Firefox is that every time they release a new version, whatever version I am running on my machine stops working-- it refuses to load any new page or to refresh any existing page. So I have to open Safari and download and install the latest release. Which means I can never count on Firefox working. Frustrating. osx, if that helps anyone suggest a fix.
Huh? Firefox on macOS autoupdates quite fine. You do not need to download it manually.
What if I don't want to autoupdate? Why should a browser which was working just fine one day stop working the next, just because Mozilla released a new version? Why does a new version release kill an already installed existing version?
Also, an update (auto or manual) means restarting the browser, which logs me out of my sessions, profile, and password manager.
Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?
#377Other workaround: Go to preferences -> Firefox Data Collection and uncheck everything. Then restart Firefox[0] This might be better then disabling http3 as Firefox would stop working in the future when http2 is depreciated. [0] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c6
I posted exactly that on the reddit thread and got my post deleted...
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#378My firefox hung in a weird way and I think it might be because of this. However what happended was slightly amusing.
I was in the middle of a chess game. I played a move and the opponent's clock just seemed to be ticking down. The correct response for them was obvious so I couldn't understand why they were taking so long. Eventually I became suspicious and realised all my firefox tabs were kind of "stuck" and I couldn't refresh anything etc. Eventually my opponents clock seemed to run out completely but the game didn't end. I had to forcefully restart my firefox and when I got back to my game (fully expecting to have lost on time) saw that my opponent had played a terrible blunder and immediately resigned.
Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most users are computer illiterate, so they would choose to not auto-update to skip the hassle, and then never manually update anyways.
Every FireFox install comes with auto-update enabled.
Nope, mine on linux doesn't auto-update itself, though I update it diligently, but manually