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Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by placeybordeaux »

grillvogel wrote: post #361
placeybordeaux wrote: post #333

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It's possible I still am having trouble finding good places. But coming from Atlanta I was kind of disappointed. Some of it was just that everything is a couple dollars more expensive for the same quality. The seafood is obviously a lot better. Could you make some recommendations for chinese, ramen (not a daily special) and burgers (other than lil woodies)?

>ramen there's no good ramen in seattle, people may claim otherwise but they don't know. I'm not too fond of lil woodys either. Seattle food is not unlike seattle itself: overpriced mediocrity. For whatever reason many in seattle are convinced that all of their mediocre offerings are "the best", I think this may be due to the fact that seattle is the first big city some of these people have lived in. Top Pot donuts i…

I am bias, but I'd say Atlanta has great food. Growing up in Atlanta I even trusted yelp to find decent food.

I am completely losing faith in yelp in Seattle.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by smarinov »

Intimatik wrote: post #302
smarinov wrote: post #255

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Biased, but try Bulgaria. IMHO currently only Bucharest can (somewhat) compete as a SW/startup hub in the region. HW is generally weak throughout the Balkans, though.

I've been working in Bucharest for a while, this place is toxic if you plan a start a family or long-lasting relations. I can recommend it to anyone who's single, Balkan girls look great. Unfortunately, I'm married with kids =(

Why do you find it toxic for starting a family or long-lasting relationships? :/

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by iends »

I live in Raleigh and the startup scene is growing both downtown and especially in Durham next door. There is also a large corporate presence here too in a variety of industries so the job market is pretty solid.

If you want to work in an obscure stack, Raleigh isn't the best place to find jobs. Right now things are Java, C#, C++, Ruby on Rails, Python, & JavaScript. About 7 years ago I had trouble finding Python jobs. There are a few (think 2-3 companies) Scala jobs, a few Go jobs, etc but your company pool is much much smaller. It seems like SFO has much more opportunities for less mainstream stacks.

I think because of cost of living you can make 120k and that goes much much farther than 180k in SFO.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by cweagans »

Naritai wrote: post #368
cweagans wrote: post #347

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When did you live here? It's changed quite a bit over the last 5-7 years. There's a real startup scene here now.

I moved to SF in 2007, so yes it's entirely possible the culture has changed. I'm genuinely interested in how it's change though.

Since 2007:

* We've cultivated a startup-friendly business community. I remember 2007 - the only tech "community" we had was when HP or Micron had engineering dept mixers. It was kind of sad.

* There's been some VC activity in Boise - I know of a handful of startups that have gotten angel funding or their series A from local investors. It's nowhere near the scale of what's in Silicon Valley, but it doesn't need to be. Everything is cheaper here.

* We have a real coworking space now. I think the Watercooler was around in 2007, but I never really thought of that as a coworking space. It was more of a office space rental that was somewhat targeted at startups, but kind of still had the same mindset as any other office space. idk. Anyway, we have Trailhead now, which is a really great environment for startups, remote workers, or freelancers. Really cheap too - it's like $30/mo.

* There's a large number of technology specific meetups now. Angular, Python, PHP, .NET just to name a few.

* I can't remember if Boise Code Camp was a thing in 2007, but it is now. It's an annual tech camp run by BSU and handful of other orgs in Boise. The quality of the sessions has been pretty high the past couple years.

To me, it feels like a much different environment for startups and tech businesses in general, but I'm not entirely sure how to quantify that beyond the points that I mentioned above.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by Eridrus »

Vnjjkkll wrote: post #2

NYC. Its still expensive obviously but more diverse. Not a mono-culture. Cold/long winters are not much fun. But there are nicer small classic american town in NY and Long Island, which can be affordable. Train commute is ok if you can work remote a couple days per week and get some work done on the trains. Beaches are close, skiing upstate is decent. Lots of opportunity in NYC/Brooklyn. A very nice home (4 bedroom,…

If you're looking for space though, I'd suggest taking a look at Hoboken/Jersey City. It seemed a lot of nicer than Queens and seemed to have similar costs for larger places.

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Post by wprapido »

rurban wrote: post #358
wprapido wrote: post #353

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nah. it's 10k for germany. austria seems way more xenophobic and way more hostile

Worked in all 3, Austria, Germany, US. Germany is indeed the best, but only if you can work remote for a US company.

german developer salaries are crap. in europe, only UK, switzerland and norway pay better for developers (UK is pretty decent if you are a contractor), but COL is fairly high, too

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Post by Apocryphon »

iends wrote: post #374

I live in Raleigh and the startup scene is growing both downtown and especially in Durham next door. There is also a large corporate presence here too in a variety of industries so the job market is pretty solid. If you want to work in an obscure stack, Raleigh isn't the best place to find jobs. Right now things are Java, C#, C++, Ruby on Rails, Python, & JavaScript. About 7 years ago I had trouble finding Python job…

Any mobile?

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Post by billconan »

spillihp wrote: post #8

Want to put in a quick plug for Sacramento. Great quality of life here, generally great weather (sometimes a little hot in summer, but sunny most of the year), affordable housing with rents between $500 and $1,000 (and affordable to buy a house - still good places available for under $300k), nice neighborhoods, great amenities, bars, restaurants, all that. Good access to awesome outdoors. And really easy to get to th…

I also think Davis and Sacramento have potentials.

they are cheap, safe and close to bay area.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Post by error53 »

From San Francisco to Berlin. Housing is affordable and the startup scene is growing really quickly. Food is great and beer is outstanding. Full of young people and interesting events. The tech community is growing pretty quickly.

Only two things that are really bad: - payment network - internet network

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