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Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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I did this while hiring last year and the number of candidates who got stuff wrong because they were too proud to just look up the answer was shocking.

Is it pride or is it hard to shake the (reasonable, I'd say) fear the reviewer will judge regardless of their claims?

I do what I can to allay that fear. The rest is up to them.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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My startup got acquired last year so I haven't interviewed anyone in a while, but my technical interview has always been: - share your screen - download/open the coding challenge - you can use any website, Stack Overflow, whatever, to answer my questions as long as it's on the screenshare My goal is to determine if the candidate can be technically productive, so I allow any programming language, IDE, autocompleter, e…

The difficulty of your questions have to change drastically if they are using good tooling. Many a problem that would take a reasonable candidate half an hour to figure out is 'free' for Claude, so your question might not show any signal. And if you tweak your questions to be sure to not be auto-solved by a strong enough AI, then you better say it's semi-required, because the difficulty level of the question you need to ask goes up quite a bit.

Some of the questions in our interview loop have been posted in github... which means every AI has trained on them specifically. They are, therefore, useless if you have AI turned on. And if you interview enough people, someone will post on github, and therefore your question will have a pretty short shelf life before it's in training and instantly solved.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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This completely.. You ask a rote question and you'll get a rote answer while the interviewee is busy looking at a fixed point on the screen. You then ask a pointed question about something they know or care about, and suddenly their face lights up, they're animated, and they are looking around. It's a huge tell.

You know, this makes me wonder if a viable remote interview technique, at least until real-time deepfaking gets better, would be to have people close their eyes while talking to them. For somebody who knows their stuff it'll have zero impact; for someone relying entirely on GPT, it will completely derail them.

That’s an interesting idea. Sadly I think the next AI interviewing tool to be developed in response would make you look like your eyes are closed. But in the interim period it could be an interesting way to interview. Doesn’t really help for technical interviews where they kinda need to have their eyes open, but for pre-screens maybe…

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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I don't know, I kind of feel like leetcode interviews are a situation where the employer is cheating. I mean, you're admittedly filtering out a great number of acceptable candidates knowing that if you just find 1 in a 1000, that'll be good enough. It is patently unfair to the individuals that are smart enough to do your work, but poor at some farcical representation of the work. That is cheating. In my opinion, if a…

I dunno why there is always the assumption in these threads that leetcode is being used. My company has never used leetcode-style questions, and likely never will. I work in security, and our questions are pretty basic stuff. "What is cross-site scripting, and how would you protect against it?", "You're tasked with parsing a log file to return the IP addresses that appear at least 10 times, how would you approach thi…

> "You're tasked with parsing a log file to return the IP addresses that appear at least 10 times, how would you approach this?"

Out of curiosity, did anyone just reply with `awk ... | sort | count ... | awk`? Its certainly what I would do rather than writing out an actual script.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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My company, a very very large company, is transitioning back to only in-person interviews due to the rampant amount of cheating happening during interviews. As an interviewer, it's wild to me how many candidates think they can get away with it, when you can very obviously hear them typing, then watching their eyes move as they read an answer from another screen. And the majority of the time the answer is incorrect an…

Some can be quite good at the cheating: At least good enough to get through multiple layers. I've been in hiring meetings where I was the only one of 4 rounds that caught the cheating, and they were even cheating in behaviorals. I've also been in situations with a second interviewer, where the other interviewer was completely oblivious even when it was clear I was basically toying with the guy reading from the AI, leading conversation in unnatural ways.

Detection of AI in remote interviews, behavioral and technical, just has to be taught today if you are ever interviewing people that don't come from in-network recommendations. Completely fake candidates are way too common.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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They put their phone number there because they want you to call it. I say "I saw this position advertised on LinkedIn and I'm interested, is this still available?" Last time I did this they told me it is but that they are at late stages of interviewing so I shouldn't bother applying for that one, but they got down my details and had other jobs that matched what I was looking for. Recruiters are sales people and you j…

And when was this? I can't remember the last time anyone had their phone number publicly displayed on LinkedIn. And now messaging recruiters is a paid feature. The market's only making it more difficult to reach a human.

This was last week. Perhaps the Australian market is different, but I often but not always see the option to physically call.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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post #47

My startup got acquired last year so I haven't interviewed anyone in a while, but my technical interview has always been: - share your screen - download/open the coding challenge - you can use any website, Stack Overflow, whatever, to answer my questions as long as it's on the screenshare My goal is to determine if the candidate can be technically productive, so I allow any programming language, IDE, autocompleter, e…

I'd be fine with the GPT side of things, as long as I could somehow inject poor answers, and see if the interviewee notices and corrects.

There's more than one possible AI on the other end, so crafting something that will not annoy a typical candidate, but will lead every AI astray seems pretty difficult.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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hiring market tightened up... that doesn't mean there isn't one

nope, but the process is worse - Much less resposnes - For your sanity you want to make sure there aren't obvious signs of something being a ghost job, an H1B hire, an internal hire, or a farce because "we're always growing" (lying). - expect longer processes. Hasn't happened to me but 7+ stage interview processes is not uncommon these days, even outside of tech - accept that some processes will be frozen under your…

> wages are being suppressed

"logically, necessarily" as Marc Andreessen says? https://futurism.com/the-byte/ai-investor-goal-crash-human-w...

Now if they could also crash factors like material, energy and profit... consumers could pay pennies using their centinaire incomes.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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Part of my resume review process is trying to decide if I can trust the person. If their resume seems too AI-generated, I feel less like I can trust that candidate and typically reject the candidate. Once you get to the interview process, it's very clear if someone thinks they can use AI to help with the interview process. I'm not going to sit here while you type my question into OpenAI and try to BS a meaningful res…

There's candidates running speech-to-text that avoid the noticeable delays, but it's still possible to do the right kind of digging the AI will almost always refuse to do, because it's way too polite.

It's as if we were testing for replicants in Blade Runner: The AI response will rarely figure out you are aiming to look for something frustrating, that they are actually proud of, or figure out when you are looking for a hot take you can then disagree with.

Re: Ask HN: What is interviewing like now with everyone using AI?

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My company, a very very large company, is transitioning back to only in-person interviews due to the rampant amount of cheating happening during interviews. As an interviewer, it's wild to me how many candidates think they can get away with it, when you can very obviously hear them typing, then watching their eyes move as they read an answer from another screen. And the majority of the time the answer is incorrect an…

So far 3 of the 11 people we interviewed have been clearly using ChatGPT for the >>behavioral We actually allow using AI in our in-person technical interviews, but our questions are worded to fail safety checks. We'll talk about smuggling nuclear weapons, violent uprising, staging a coup, manufacturing fentanyl, etc. (within the context of system design) and that gives us really good mileage on weeding out those who…

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