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Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by anonymouse008 »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #270
CWuestefeld wrote: post #212

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I've been doing this for 30+ years, and I've found the same. It's not just whether the candidate can answer correctly, but how they answer. Back when I was doing C/C++ interviews, I'd ask questions like: What's the difference between single and double quotes? A meh candidate answers something about you need single quotes for just a single character. A good candidate answers about how the data type for a double-quoted…

Completely off topic, but I wanted to see if your bio could be parsed for an email with chatGPT - since I thought yours was the most interesting I've seen in some time. Turns out cgpt is quite clever: What's the email address: To email, send to the domain [redacted], using the mailbox "[redacted]". In general, email addresses consist of a username followed by the at symbol (@) and the domain name, such as [redacted]@…

Hey someone flag the above comment - I’m an idiot and left the email in there

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by fxtentacle »

single_identity wrote: post #256
fxtentacle wrote: post #230

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The offer I linked to was literally a "buy the house with monthly installments and no upfront payment" offer. So yes, you can "buy the house" if you can afford those 1900€ per month in addition to food and heating. Also, with 2 kids and 2 adults out of which only 1 is working, you'll get heavy tax deductions, so I'd expect an effective tax rate of around 15%. That 100k€ gross will turn into 85k€ after taxes. Deduct a…

> so I'd expect an effective tax rate of around 15%. That 100k€ gross will turn into 85k€ after taxes. Your calculus is far far from reality so your further reasoning is therefore flawed from the very start. 4-4.5k EUR is probably more realistic. Moreover, property prices around EU are generally speaking anywhere from 3k EUR to 15k EUR per sqm. For a 100sqm home that's 300k EUR for the cheapest one, 700-800k EUR as a…

https://www.steuerklassen.com/kinderfreibetrag/rechner/ with 100k€ income and 2 Kinderfreibetrag and no further deductions comes out at 18k€ taxes which is 18%. So to reach the 15% I predicted you only need 3k€ in additional deductible expenses like trash, cleaning, gardening, daycare, etc.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by imperialdrive »

bitL wrote: post #128

I know a guy that left one FAANG recently which was laying off people, interviewed at two other FAANGs, got offers for senior remote roles for over $600k, accepted both and is now working two jobs at the same time. Given he was doing the previous FAANG together with a tough grad school, I think he'll be fine.

This probably goes without typing, but that is amazing to think about. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by fxtentacle »

haspok wrote: post #300
fxtentacle wrote: post #102

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I strongly disagree. Here's a family home with garden in the Berlin area that you can rent-to-own at 1900€ per month: https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/135035667 So with a 100k€ annual salary, one working parent alone can buy the house and feed the entire family. You consider that an "insult"?

I don't think that is how it works. In the ad the Kaltmiete is €1900, which is simply the rent without utilities. It does not mean that a. you are eligible to buy that property b. the buy-to-rent price will be the same. And even if it was, the legal costs alone add up to a few tens of thousands of EUR for a property like this (eg. if the property is worth €500k, you are looking at at least in the order of €50k of leg…

Then let's go with buying this more fancy house for no upfront down payment, then 3k€ monthly, and paid off over 30 years: https://www.immobilienscout24.de/baufinanzierung/finanzierun...

"But I don't know of any bank that would lend you 100% of the price of the property you want to buy, if you do please introduce me to them..."

Here's a FAQ on buying a house without any prior capital. Obviously, the interest rate is going to be higher... https://www.immobilienscout24.de/wissen/kaufen/finanzierung-...

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by FlyingSnake »

bitL wrote: post #128

I know a guy that left one FAANG recently which was laying off people, interviewed at two other FAANGs, got offers for senior remote roles for over $600k, accepted both and is now working two jobs at the same time. Given he was doing the previous FAANG together with a tough grad school, I think he'll be fine.

I'm not in the USA so I'm not sure how the W2s and SSNs are tied to job/healthcare/401k etc, but how does this double timing work? Won't the Tax office/Finanzamt (IRS) know about this?

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by fxtentacle »

throwaway908365 wrote: post #335
fxtentacle wrote: post #237

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Yes of course. A 100k€ annual salary won't let you retire early if you are the only one working in your family and you want to buy a nice house in a nice area of the city. But then again, would that work out if you were to work in San Francisco for $200k annually?

Think about it this way: I am in the top earning 2%. It is only possible to buy such a home if you have a partner, who makes similiar numbers and then together decide to dedicate your life to it. The 98% of the rest cannot do it. Ergo I am either not earning enough or we have to accept, that you cannot really buy property within a top-tier city in Germany. In the end the whole debate turns into young vs. old and heri…

But would the situation be better in the US where you might get 2x the salary but rent and housing prices are also 2x the German level?

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by k8savu »

yarky wrote: post #97
kmac_ wrote: post #70

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Bunch of companies migrate their stack to Kubernetes or other orchestrators (side effect of moving to microservices even when not needed) so you are safe and in demand for long.

> even when not needed Examples? Every time I see kubernetes pop up it's because of better performance or lesser costs.

Anecdotal example, though I'm sure I'm not the only one:

We had a C++ service. It needed high availability, but didn't have super high resource requirements. Our setup was an ec2 instance (c5.xlarge) to build and release AMIs (a bash script using debootstrap to build the AMI which someone wrote 10 years ago probably), an autoscaling group of 3 t2.small instances spread across AZs, and an ALB.

The total cost of this was perhaps $200/mo, and we had incredibly good uptime.

So, what's the catch? Well, it took the service about 20 minutes to build, and about 35 minutes from clicking the "deploy new version" to it actually running. Someone higher up noticed, and a bright-eyed infra engineer said k8s would make the deploy cycle faster.

Fast forward a year. Our autoscaling group is now 3 c5.xlarge instances because the kubelet + docker + coredns + all this other k8s gunk I don't understand need significantly more CPU than our app does (and without giving them more CPU, deploy times were much slower since downloading and unpacking the image was so slow). We have a new logging system (our old logging setup wasn't cloud native apparently) that takes a gig more memory per node. A gig of memory per node to support our service, which peaks at 200MiB RSS. Building and deploying a new version still takes about 35 minutes because compiling C++ is the exact same speed in a dockerfile as it is on an ec2 instance.

It costs about $600/mo, and it has far more operational load. When it isn't having any issues, the p99 is identical.

> better performance or lesser costs

It seems like the opposite of what you'd expect. K8s is adding more components. It's adding more resource usage. Why wouldn't that be slower and cost more?

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by godelski »

tarokun-io wrote: post #257

Interviewed with about 28 companies for almost 3 months, without a single offer! I was starting to get really worried about money and burned out from interviewing. In the past I've never interviewed with more than 2 or 3 before getting an offer I now this is incredibly privileged. I'm not humble-bragging, just observing the change in the market. As things usually turn out, during the last week of the 3-month search I…

> In the past I've never interviewed with more than 2 or 3 before getting an offer. I know this is incredibly privileged.

I'm not sure why you are saying this. You're in a rough spot and you're human. You don't have to qualify your struggle, even a universal one or one you do slightly better than others. The truth is that it shouldn't take interviewing with 28 companies to find a single offer. Interviewing at a handful before an offer sounds like it should be the (historical) norm, not a privilege. I know plenty of boomers who brag about how easy it is to get a job, with many talking about how they got hired as a walk-in to a technical engineering jobs. So don't put yourself down, we don't need a race to the bottom. We empathize with you because you're human.

Re: Ask HN: How is the job search coming along for people who got laid off?

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Post by sgc »

sgt101 wrote: post #359
ryandetzel wrote: post #3

Laid off from Twitter three weeks ago, lots of interest and cool companies out there. I binged interviews and have three offers to consider. Senior eng with 20 years experience

Not OP but similar level of experience. I had the leet code once, interviewing for Meta. I didn't prepare because I thought that it was pointless, but I was curious about what it would be like to do it. So, I went through with it and to my shock and awe I managed to do it. The feedback was that I didn't ace it but I did more than well enough for the interviewer. I didn't get the job though. The last step was a really…

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