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Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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Last year around November(2016) I finally had the time to build my first mobile app. My goals are: to learn React Native and build a mobile app and publish it to Google Play. At my previous work I'm pretty much knowledgeable in integrating CRMs (ie.Salesforce, SugarCRM and Highrise.) into Gmail via chrome extension so building API backend wont be a problem. I noticed at that time that only Highrise CRM has no official Anroid/Ios app offering so I decided to implement it myself. Initially I implemented highrise tasks feature and figure out later what the users need via feedback. I completed the app within a month uploaded it to Google Play[0] and built a simple website[1] for it. Being a Highrise user who opt in for their new products announcement, one moring around December (2016) I got an email from Highrise announcing their official mobile apps for android and iOS. So that was it. I had no chance of competing with the official apps. I got around 5 install on Google Play which already had uninstalled my app.

Expenses:

$10 for the domain

$25 for Google Play Developer Fee

around $20 for few months api backend hosting (Digital Ocean $5/month) then I migrated the code and hosted to free Heroku plan to save cost.

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.taskongo

[1] http://www.taskongo.com/

[2] https://help.highrisehq.com/mobile/

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I wrote a javascript compiler. At the time (2000), it was twice as fast as Microsoft's and 20 times faster than Netscape's. I was correct in anticipating that js speed would become very important, but my implementation was ahead of its time and didn't get any traction. It has since been rewritten in D and is Open Source: https://github.com/DigitalMars/DMDScript

How did you expect to make money off it? Acquihire by one of the browser vendors?

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I have a project which may never generate revenue, despite the fact I spent 2 months after hours working on it. I did a dumb thing and dove directly into the project without first finding a fit or customer base for it. More or less, it's a scheduling application that allows a user to set when they're open and allow anyone to book that time for however much the original scheduler valued that slot of their schedule. It…

Pick a niche market: hairdressers, dentists,...

Setup a customised website/landing page directly targeted at these people from your home town and try to get their attention and feedback. Be polite but determined: send an email, call over the phone and meetup.

Selling a generic product nobody knows is hard, so try to become #1 in your vicinity for a certain niche, and make sure all your marketing material is focused on that niche. Once you're the reference in that niche expand vertically or horizontally. Repeat ad infinitum. Combine your outbound marketing with proper inbound marketing, and after a while you'll gain traction and leads will start dripping in slowly but consistent.

Don't offer free trails, but tell them they can get your product at a reduced rate forever. Free customers are hard to convert to paying customers, so charge them something (even if it's peanuts). You can always upsell later.

Gradually increase your prices for your new customers as you expand your market. Keep old customers at their old price; it will take them feel special and reduce churn. At the perfect price point people will complain it's too expensive, but buy anyway.

After you've done this (I'd assume it will take anywhere from 6 months to a year) you will probably already have a long term vision in how to proceed.

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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A website to answer the question "what kind of dog food should I buy?" It was a price comparison website that allowed you to quickly find the best priced dog food (unit price -- like $ per 1 pound weight) and it could be filtered by dog food ratings (you could compare expensive 5-star quality ingredient foods while ignoring any of the cheap 1-star ingredient foods). There is an independent website that reviews dog fo…

Are you dog fooding your own app?

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I've maxed out a couple credit cards and spent all my severance pay etc. trying to finish building this '3D abstract visual debugger,' which I'm calling Lucidity [video]: http://symbolflux.com/projects/avd I started working on it in 2014 and it's been on my mind ever since. I applied to YC with it a long time ago (was not accepted, and I can see so much wrong with the application I sent now...) I was laid off in Nove…

You should re-record the entire intro video and leave out all the 'um' and 'uh's. It makes the product seem far less professional.

It's fine. What makes it seem unprofessional is the low sound quality.

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I built a large inventory, product management, CRM, channels management etc etc system. The idea is to integrate all the non-talking and buggy systems needed to run a small e-commerce business (most small e-commerce companies are using money-losing systems and "fixing" the issues with Macro-enabled Excel books). It was also open-source because there is zero way I'd ever take the whole market alone. The idea, I think,…

Find an entry into a market, and don't offer the world, but figure it their most painful integration point and fix that. Find multiple customers for that single integration point before you even start building anything. You need to learn to walk before you can start running: baby steps and validation after every step make sure that you only risk wasting your last step, as opposed to the whole journey.

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I have had a bunch of little websites that didn't do much of anything. Some problems that have plagued my projects (especially health-related ones): 1) Credibility. I am getting well when the world says that cannot be done. Most people don't want to believe this at all. So I get called crazy, a charlatan, etc. 2) Inherent monetization challenges in the problem space. I am convinced that part of what is wrong with mod…

I don't want to come across in the wrong way, and I'll admit I have a hard time concentrating when a beautiful woman is talking. I'd probably be in the "let's not pretend I can concentrate on her words" category.

The attention you're getting is sort of "high intensity, low quality" attention. You can abuse it to generate the desired sort of attention. Think of them hitting on you as an indicator of their interest, and just talk through it. If they're to brazen, correct them. Basically remember you're in charge of the conversation.

Don't be mean about it, at worst ask them if they need help concentrating on the issue at hand. This attitude of "you're distracted, I'm not romantically interested, but enthusiastic about building a connection with you" is probably delicate to establish. There will be a lot of men initially confused: many have never seen an intelligent and capable woman carry herself before. Pat yourself on the back over doing true feminism.

Also - try to remember it's hard for everyone. You can never be certain it's because you're female.

WRT credibility - welcome to "alternative medicine". Try to keep the alt-med vibes away, because people have their allergies around it, and consider everything touching it insanely stupid. The placebo is powerful enough that it could make you feel better. Perhaps present research.

Throughout writing this I'm wondering "how eye catching is very eye catching? How would she look?". I guess that validates my first paragraph. If you're dealing with someone like me; understand that virility is a pride and a weakness. We can't help it, we hate ourselves for it, but it does make us strong and virile men, and there's a sense of pride to that.

Honestly the best reason for separating women from business is because I just can't handle the distraction. I imagine a lot of men are more like me than they'd care to admit.

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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Probably doesn't count, but I'll post anyways... I've written the beginnings for two games, but didn't flesh out and complete the game mechanics because I haven't wanted to deal with the legal expenses involved in establishing an LLC and trademarking my assets, so I haven't been motivated to complete and release them. I don't want to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on legal protections and then only make…

Why do you feel the need to trademark your assets at this point? I mean, it sounds like your blocker to making them worth something is that they're possibly not worth anything... ...so why not make it, and then if it starts making money, pop the trademarks? People aren't likely to notice (and steal) unless it's successful enough anyway. ...plus, AFAIK, you can't protect game mechanics; it's something like they're con…

@RangerScience could I ask you to reach out to me. Would like to discuss something via email.

Re: Ask HN: What's a side project you built to make money that hasn't?

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I wrote a javascript compiler. At the time (2000), it was twice as fast as Microsoft's and 20 times faster than Netscape's. I was correct in anticipating that js speed would become very important, but my implementation was ahead of its time and didn't get any traction. It has since been rewritten in D and is Open Source: https://github.com/DigitalMars/DMDScript

How did you expect to make money off it? Acquihire by one of the browser vendors?

License it to one of the browser vendors. I did do a few licenses, but the trouble was I knew how to reach a mass market, but the market for js engines was small and only large companies. I struggled with that.

It's still quite a good scripting engine, if you want to, for example, have scripting in your IDE so users can extend it. JS is a good language for that.

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