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Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Surprised. I'd say it's pretty comparable to SF, and that's probably one of the FEW plusses of Seattle IMO. Source: Lived there for 2 years.

It's possible I still am having trouble finding good places. But coming from Atlanta I was kind of disappointed. Some of it was just that everything is a couple dollars more expensive for the same quality. The seafood is obviously a lot better. Could you make some recommendations for chinese, ramen (not a daily special) and burgers (other than lil woodies)?

>ramen

there's no good ramen in seattle, people may claim otherwise but they don't know. I'm not too fond of lil woodys either.

Seattle food is not unlike seattle itself: overpriced mediocrity. For whatever reason many in seattle are convinced that all of their mediocre offerings are "the best", I think this may be due to the fact that seattle is the first big city some of these people have lived in. Top Pot donuts is a good example of this, $2 each and would be unacceptable anywhere on the east coast, but seattlites are convinced they are the best donuts in the world.

I wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta has much better food overall

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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They're not trying very hard to steal mindshare with only a half dozen jobs (three of which are actually dev jobs) listed on Craigslist. Seattle has page after page of software jobs on CL. I'd totally consider a move to NOLA, but I'm not packing my bags just yet. I mean, seriously, is the article just BS? Even my old stomping grounds of Indianapolis (a.k.a., "Naptown", a.k.a, "you'll be writing code for an insurance…

NOLA is oil, food, and booze. No tech options unless you're in Chem/Process Engg.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2013/05/23/the-cities...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2014/04/03/americas-n...

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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1. I don't mind the snow. 2. Taxes totally suck. I am at $6,000 a year. 3. It is cheap. 4. Hot plates? I don't follow this :-)

Hot plates (also called 'garbage plates', or just 'plates') are a Rochester thing. http://rocwiki.org/Garbage_Plates

oh! yes, there was a place in Rochester, I think it was called "Sals" or "Salvatore's" and they had a $5 garbage plate when I was younger.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Out of curiosity, what sort of behind-the-curve ideas have you seen?

Maybe it's a pattern I've seen: people don't move to San Diego for a career, they move for the lifestyle. Now I know there are a ton of bio-tech companies and, yes, Qualcomm. But the cost-of-living is still high and San Diego companies are notoriously stingy on salary (Sunshine Tax). Beside bio-tech, what are the other dominant industries in San Diego? Some idea: military, tourism, retail, etc. San Diego is awesome,…

There are a decent number of video game companies as well. Rockstar, Sony, Activation, DayBreak, Zygna. I think 25-30 in total.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Want to put in a quick plug for Sacramento. Great quality of life here, generally great weather (sometimes a little hot in summer, but sunny most of the year), affordable housing with rents between $500 and $1,000 (and affordable to buy a house - still good places available for under $300k), nice neighborhoods, great amenities, bars, restaurants, all that. Good access to awesome outdoors. And really easy to get to th…

I went to UC Davis but would frequently visit Sac. It's such a beautiful and laid-back city, and the people are great. SF is only a one hour drive away and Lake Tahoe is relatively close too. I've been living in Mountain View for a couple months and I miss the Davis/Sac area more and more as time goes on. The atmosphere here is, I dunno, toxic. Too many people here size each other up based on where they work and wher…

$1700 for a tiny studio would be a steal here in SF.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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"Upstate New York" is a very large area. It would be tough to generalize... I'm in the Syracuse area (smack in the middle of the state), and the local scene is reasonably unimpressive (I work remotely, as do most of the folks I know in the area). There is a bit of a tech job market 45 minutes east of here in Rome, but that's mostly DoD related work (Rome Labs, etc). An hour and a half south is Ithaca, which is a 'hip…

I grew up in cuse and went to school at RIT. Why I'd never go back: 1. Snow, 2. Taxes Why I'd go back: 1. Insanely cheap 2. Hot plates Thus is life.

Did you mean garbage plates ;-)

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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Is it still a Micron-dominated monoculture? That one company had way too much influence when I lived there.

When did you live here? It's changed quite a bit over the last 5-7 years. There's a real startup scene here now.

I moved to SF in 2007, so yes it's entirely possible the culture has changed. I'm genuinely interested in how it's change though.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

#369

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It's possible I still am having trouble finding good places. But coming from Atlanta I was kind of disappointed. Some of it was just that everything is a couple dollars more expensive for the same quality. The seafood is obviously a lot better. Could you make some recommendations for chinese, ramen (not a daily special) and burgers (other than lil woodies)?

>ramen there's no good ramen in seattle, people may claim otherwise but they don't know. I'm not too fond of lil woodys either. Seattle food is not unlike seattle itself: overpriced mediocrity. For whatever reason many in seattle are convinced that all of their mediocre offerings are "the best", I think this may be due to the fact that seattle is the first big city some of these people have lived in. Top Pot donuts i…

Totally agree. Only locals and people from the Midwest think Seattle has good food.

Re: Ask HN: Moving Out of Silicon Valley because of housing? Where to?

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That's pretty harsh. We wanted to move into S. Minneapolis but couldn't justify the high cost. Instead we ended up in the (far) suburbs.

It is pretty harsh, but I do think the suburbs around minneapolis are really really crappy. All the food gets delivered off the back off US food trucks, most people are openly racist and/or hickish, all the houses look like crap, etc etc. Which part of south minneapolis are you talking about? There is a big difference between southeast and southwest. I once played a hockey team from the suburbs when I was younger and…

I've heard some of this before. To me it is a little confusing since most areas in Minneapolis and the inner ring suburbs are expensive compared to the further suburbs.

My experience of the suburbs is different from yours.

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