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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by moomoo11 »

oparin10 wrote: post #346
moomoo11 wrote: post #315

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This honestly reminds me of the crypto days from 2017-2021ish. Literally 80% of the posts were about crypto and how we were going to experience some ground shattering revolution. There were so many posts about how all the topics are about crypto and how it is annoying. Ultimately, all that noise and the billions of dollars poured into that turned into a meme if we're honest. Most people just buy/flip crypto or hold B…

Apparently, it's not even close. According to https://hn.algolia.com/ : - "show hn" "nft" – 151 results - "show hn" "blockchain" – 479 results - "show hn" "crypto" – 782 results - "show hn" "llm" – 2,363 results - "show hn" "ai" – 13,128 results These numbers were originally posted by the very active user simonw just 9 days ago [0]. Since then, they've increased to: - "show hn" "llm" – 2,417 (+54) - "show hn" "ai" –…

Awesome! That's interesting to know.

I guess the barrier to entry being soooo low when it comes to AI definitely plays a role.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by nailer »

No. We’ve had this when Linux dominated, when cloud was new and AWS was releasing a new product every six months, when node.js and Rails and Django were everywhere, when Go and Rust and Elixir debuted, when crypto first happened, and AIs are just another step. Eventually LLMs will just be another part of the mix.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by nailer »

conception wrote: post #80
danbruc wrote: post #13

No, will go away just like all the crypto stuff - remember that time? - went away.

Unlike crypto though LLMs are actually useful.

Blockchain is useful though. Get 10,000 dollars to poland right now and pay less than a cent for the privilege if I’m wrong.

‘AI’ used to be shitty chatbots that didn’t work. HN acts like crypto is still in 2015 with slow transfer times and giant fees.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by NaOH »

bookofjoe wrote: post #343
Kiro wrote: post #309

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No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.

1. I joined in 2016. I guess it all depends on what the cutoff is for "newcomers." I suppose you could call anyone who signed on after 2007 a newcomer. 2. "demanding?" I wrote: >Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across. The increasing AI/LLM domination of…

>The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

Since you say this, I'm curious why you've also submitted about a dozen AI/LLM or adjacent articles in just the last two weeks. One was even a few hours before posting this Ask HN. That makes me think I'm not understanding something about your thinking.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by heavyset_go »

simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

Almost certain you can use the HN Algolia to do the same thing by excluding terms

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by [deleted] »

dolebirchwood wrote: post #131
levmiseri wrote: post #117

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> Anyone is free to make a website with whatever content they want, they can invite people to it and grow your own community. This is very hard to do. But hey, I'll give it a try. Starting now a new community for AI-assisted coding: https://kraa.io/vibecoding

> product building > vibecoding These should not be deemed equivalent.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by nomel »

michaelteter wrote: post #296

Nope. While the blockchain craze was less meaningful and slightly less annoying, it died down. This will too (even though there's more actual value hiding in corners). There are certainly periods where one concept is "viral" and appears quite often; that's normal.

It seems that, for this to be true, AI (not just LLM) will have to plateau, very soon. Considering the Nobel prize for chemistry, last year, was about AI (not LLM) [1], I think there are still an incredible number of non-LLM applications of AI out there still.

[1] https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/2024/press-relea...

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by op00to »

ryandrake wrote: post #337
op00to wrote: post #323

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Who are you to say whether an article is interesting to anyone else but yourself?

It’s not clear where you are trying to go with this aggressive line of questioning that puts words into other peoples mouths that they aren’t saying.

It only seems aggressive if you believe that HN somehow owes you the precise content you are seeking over whatever it’s delivering now.

If you don’t like the topic, don’t read it. No one’s forcing you to do so.

Don’t yuck someone else’s yum.

The internet’s a big place and life is short, spend your time reading stuff you like rather than bitching that you want things another way.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by c23gooey »

Kiro wrote: post #309
ffsm8 wrote: post #90

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To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse) Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it. Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.

No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.

The UI might be the same but there's clearly been a lot of work done on the backend of the site in that time

edit to add: Don't gatekeep by using the pejorative "newcomers". Unless you're PG there will always be someone who has been around here longer than you

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by savolai »

bee_rider wrote: post #232
savolai wrote: post #209

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llm, ai, cuda, agent, gpt. Wish it returned more unfiltered items tho.

Isn’t knocking out CUDA going to take out a significant chunk of GPGPU stuff with it? I can see wanting to avoid AI stuff, for sure, but I can’t imagine not wanting to hear anything about the high-bandwidth half of your computer…

Sure, if that suits you it makes sense. Just happened to take out one piece I felt was ai-related at the time. I suppose mlx would have worked better.
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