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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by Klonoar »

misiek08 wrote: post #307
dawnerd wrote: post #302

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I managed to get people over to Telegram. Signal was a no go. It’s still a bit inconvenient. Mobile only unless you link a desktop is a non starter for me period. Majority of people don’t care about e2ee. They want an easy to use app that syncs everything and doesn’t require reading a manual.

Sad you got downvoted. Signal UX is 100x worse than Telegram and I probably can calculate it to prove this exact number. I’m dreaming about Telegram client and Signal-like openness.

I have often wondered why nobody takes the open source clients for Telegram and experiments with swapping the backend, so to speak.

It’s of course not trivial but one has to wonder if there’s something there.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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archagon wrote: post #267
bko wrote: post #189

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> techno fascism I keep hearing this. What does this mean? My guess would be "a system in which big technology firms can effectively censor speech with coordination from the state". But I think those that use it mean something else.

Big tech leadership cheerily cozying up to an authoritarian president, felon, and rapist who started an insurrection and literally tried to overthrow the last election. Musk — one of the most powerful people in Washington — doing things like throwing a sieg heil salute, supporting the AfD, claiming that "Hitler was a communist,"[1] and calling for the execution of a government witness[2]. Thiel proclaiming to "no lon…

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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by [deleted] »

bko wrote: post #192
coldpie wrote: post #98

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Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle. What I'm saying is that's a boring reason not to do something you believe in.

Doing something personally is fine. But trying to convince an entire community to ditch something that works and is likely incredibly valuable to them to stick it to some billionaire you don't like is just wrong.

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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by [deleted] »

coldpie wrote: post #132
robertlagrant wrote: post #108

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> Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle No, most people don't care about having this battle - that's the point. If there's no demonstrable reason to leave (e.g. "former president got banned from major platform, so go to new platform") then the - valid, if personally boring to you - point is: how will you persuade people to leave it?

Good question, let's try to answer it. Suppose OP believes they have a serviceable replacement in place. What arguments could they use to convince their communities to switch to it? Here's some ideas: - No ads. - Free, even for business-use. - No algorithm interfering with visibility. - It's usable by community members who do not have a Facebook account, for whatever reason. - Allows for more free-form content. - Mor…

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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by dawnerd »

Zak wrote: post #334
misiek08 wrote: post #307

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Sad you got downvoted. Signal UX is 100x worse than Telegram and I probably can calculate it to prove this exact number. I’m dreaming about Telegram client and Signal-like openness.

I have used both Signal and Telegram for years and I'm not seeing much UX difference. What's better for you on Telegram?

To be fair, Signal has gotten a lot better and a lot easier to show people how to sign up. Back when I did my migration off FB Messenger it was a different story and Telegram was basically on par with Messenger

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by Zak »

dawnerd wrote: post #356
Zak wrote: post #334

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I have used both Signal and Telegram for years and I'm not seeing much UX difference. What's better for you on Telegram?

To be fair, Signal has gotten a lot better and a lot easier to show people how to sign up. Back when I did my migration off FB Messenger it was a different story and Telegram was basically on par with Messenger

My initial Signal onboarding was long enough ago that I don't remember it. I do remember some general unreliability about eight years ago, but it's been solid during the past five. Several nontechnical people I've recommended it to during the past five years needed zero handholding.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by righthand »

scarface_74 wrote: post #205
coldpie wrote: post #98

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Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle. What I'm saying is that's a boring reason not to do something you believe in.

It doesn’t matter what the poster believes. He is doing something for the benefit of a community that doesn’t care about whatever ideological battle he is trying to fight and inconveniencing them in the process

If this is how you feel, you must feel inconvenienced that HN isn't a Facebook Group.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by EyMaddis »

I can see that my site Partey.io[1] is used by several small communities for events. I like a local beekeeper club or town hall meetings.

Maybe that is something that works for you as well if everybody is already connected. It is completely login-less but does only provide event planning features, maybe you need more…(?)

Disclaimer: my site

[1] https://partey.io

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by EyMaddis »

beisner wrote: post #45

For events specifically, my cohort (somewhere between Gen-Z and Millenial) have moved event organizing entirely to Partiful, which I've found to be far superior to Facebook Events. Doesn't help with group posts though.

I can throw my site Partey.io into the mix. Works without VC backing for free (I run it and it’s cheap for me). No need to expose your phone number, an invite is just a link you can share.
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