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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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This is a regular comment on hn. It doesn't chime with my experience. I have used Teams every day for 3 years. It is a memory hog, it sometimes takes a moment from connection to hearing people...but I never once had it 'crash'. I swap from phone to screen fairly regularly with no problem. I wonder, do people who pay for Teams as an organisation get better service? We pay and I have no problems with it.

Same here. Never had a problem with Teams with the organization. I am using mac though.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TIL people in the US use SMS

Why don't people use it elsewhere? I know that WhatsApp is dominant, but why?

SMS are quite expensive, if your destination has another phone provider they can be even more expensive.

In italy we do ample use of sending audio messages. This doesn't work with sms.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#353

This is a regular comment on hn. It doesn't chime with my experience. I have used Teams every day for 3 years. It is a memory hog, it sometimes takes a moment from connection to hearing people...but I never once had it 'crash'. I swap from phone to screen fairly regularly with no problem. I wonder, do people who pay for Teams as an organisation get better service? We pay and I have no problems with it.

We pay and I've encountered most of the mentioned issues.

Most aggravating one being when audio just wouldn't work (test call worked fine) for one meeting (forced to listen in through the phone app) and then did work for the one right after.

The most regular annoyance is me getting marked as idle while actively working. When it did yesterday I was typing away a ton in vscode but it took a good long while for it to update.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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I’ve used Teams every day all day for the past 4+ years and I have had minor issues with it ~5 times. Hundreds of my fellow co-workers use it and I’ve not heard anyone run into the consistent issues you’ve described. We use it for 100% of our conference calls, sales calls, 1:1 working sessions, all-hands (hundreds of attendees), virtual trainings, new-hire onboarding, etc… I’d say it’s the most useful software we use…

Ever tried searching for a conversation you had with someone, and you search for something you remember saying, and click ‘go to message’ and rather than take you to the conversation with all the important context you were actually looking for, it just shows that single message on the center of the screen all by itself with no way to see the rest of the conversation? That’s the best.

There actually is a (stupid) workaround: You first pop out the chat into a separate window. Then search for the message in the main window. Now click "go to message", you will jump to the message in the separate chat window, giving you the context.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#356
I never experienced any crashes, and neither can I recall a team mate complaining about that.

Bugs I encountered:

1. Opening the link to a scheduled meeting opens the browser (good), but then clicking the "open in teams" and confirming the external URL handler in the browser does... Nothing. Restarting teams fixes that. (Happens for my team mates as well).

2. I have a dedicated USB mic that's always on, while my speakers are on a different USB device that's not always on. I have to reconfigure the audio settings very often, which is especially annoying since I can't do that before answering a call. But changing the audio device works without error (unlike Discord on my private PC, which lets me select the newly connected USB device as output, but needs to be restarted to actually output audio to it).

That's about it. Of course memory and CPU usage are rather impressive. And afaik we don't use the phone (as in landline, not as in app) feature; at least I don't, so I can't comment on that.

I've to add: I tend to bash MS first and ask questions later. I'm unhappy I can't use Linux on both my work PCs. But if I'm honest, teams works pretty well for us.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#357
Most things made by Microsoft are horrific. Just look at Azure.

It's because they have a bad culture and developers who could never care about their capitalist hell products.

Once your company is stuck into a contract with them it's almost impossible to change, so why do they care about fixing anything.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TIL people in the US use SMS

Why don't people use it elsewhere? I know that WhatsApp is dominant, but why?

Because SMS is terrible as a text standard, and people want to use a rich messanger. SMS was used when there wasn't much alternative as Nokias didn't have great app support. People already knew of better things and used ICQ, MSN Messager et al. even without being technically inclined. The limitation was the platform.

It's also why iMessage hasn't taken off. We are used to things working cross platform, the iMessage lock-in doesn't interest people as it isn't providing much convenience for its limitations.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

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post #45

My company is transitioning to Teams and I find it frustrating. So much so that I collect my complaints in a confluence page. I could be wrong on some of these, so happy to be corrected! No links You can’t link to conversations. This means if you want to add context to a Jira ticket or in a code comment, you can’t easily do so. Inconsistent UI The UI between a Teams channel and a chat with multiple people is not cons…

Regarding code block, try ``` (backtick 3 times then space)

If Teams could just get real markdown support, instead of shoddily replacing it with WYSIWYG
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